• theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 months ago

    Taxi drivers are the most aggressive, entitled and dangerous road users where I’m from. I’d gladly see driverless cars instead as I have no doubt that even in this early stage they would be better and safer than the cunts that drive taxis around here.

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      11 months ago

      Yeah, they did the same when Uber got popular. If they had a fair and friendly service, people wouldn’t flock to the alternatives

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        11 months ago

        Yeah there certainly wasn’t any loss leading or intentional undercutting being done to get below profitable prices to drive current players out of those markets /s

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          11 months ago

          Both can be true though. I don’t support things like Uber and Lyft but only because of how horribly they treat their employees. I don’t have much sympathy for the taxi industry that never bothered to modernized over the last 50 years.

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    11 months ago

    Today I got my email from Waymo saying I’m off the sf waiting list and can start booking my rides. Lol no thanks.

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    11 months ago

    Driverless cars are cool as fuck but still need their kinks worked out. Driving sucks and so does doing it for a living, I don’t see a real negative especially once the tech cements them as safer than human driven cars, or at least no real negative which doesn’t have it’s root in our broken economic system.

    An other article explain it got stuck in the crowd and then stopped moving as it should. Embarrassing to see people cheering on mindless vandalism and sharing false info.

    Edit: it doesn’t seem to be very clear what happened and there’s conflicting information so my last paragraph might be completely wrong and even worse, hypocritical.

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      11 months ago

      I disagree about being no negatives. Cars with or without drivers are ruining both our cities and our planet and San Francisco already has multiple excellent public transportation options. All driverless cars do is discourage people from taking public transit.

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        11 months ago

        To be fair, calling San Francisco’s public transportation ‘excellent’ isn’t something I can agree with after living there for over a decade haha. But it is better than nothing 🤷

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        11 months ago

        I see them as a stepping stone towards a mostly carless society personally.

        I also think anyone being discouraged from taking public transit would likewise buy a car before taking public transit. I can even see the opposite, where it lets people who still need a car 5% of the time sell their ride in exchange for mostly public transit and a bit of taxi.

        Individually owned cars are the devil and true public transport is definitely king, but I think driverless taxi services can serve an important niche.

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          I think you’re missing the end goal here, which is having everyone in a driverless car. The taxis are a first step in that direction. It will by no means stop there.

          There was a reason why GM was investing so heavily in Cruise (until a woman got dragged under a Cruise car in SF during a crash). They weren’t doing it in the hopes people would transition to public transit.

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            11 months ago

            I’m not missing the end goal, I just don’t think GM will pull back if we decide to ban driverless cars or boycott them.

            We both want 100% public transport but that’s beside the point, the event happened because the car was driverless, not because it wasn’t a bus.

            If someone was proposing to ban all cars in San Francisco, I’m all for it but that isn’t really what’s happening. But for now, I’ll take driverless cars even if it only gets rid of a couple privately owned ones.

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              You’re right. It isn’t what’s happening and I am proposing a ban on personal transport in San Francisco (and other major metropolitan areas with decent public transportation systems).

              I also don’t see this as a path to that happening. And that should be the goal.

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            It’s going to weird when people are choosing a vehicle based on whether it will decide to drive you off the cliff, or just plow through the pedestrian. There will be a Jerryrigeverything who buys cars to test their self driving to destruction.

            Given how little liability auto manufactures have due to the responsibility put on the driver, I don’t see why they would be pushing for self driving. Unless there’s a single unified AI that makes the same driving decisions for every car, which I don’t think is a good thing, the manufactures will then take the responsibility for accidents involving their proprietary driving software.

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              Unless there’s a single unified AI that makes the same driving decisions for every car, which I don’t think is a good thing

              Honestly? I don’t know that it would be the worst thing, especially on busy highways and streets, to have the same AI controlling all of the traffic instead of individual self-driving cars from individual brands, all with different software and hardware.