• dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Real people will die if he becomes POTUS again and yet America minces words about what kind of ideology he represents. He better hope the mob doesn’t ever get their hands on him.

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    Anyone wondering why the rest of the world has begun taking the US less and less seriously and has begun distancing themselves from any decisions we make, you can thank this incompetent orange retard for the ludicrous amount of damage he did to the US’s soft power.

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    This literally sounds like a mob guy coming into a store and “suggesting” that you need to pay “protection money” or else something bad may happen…

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    Quick reminder: NATO’s collective defense clause, also known as Article 5, has only been triggered once. It was invoked in response to the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States.

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      Reminder that Trump was happy about those attacks that day because they made his property value go up

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        He said that on the day.

        A few hours after the towers collapsed, he decided to call into a radio station and brag. No one asked him, he just did it. And he said:

        “Well, it was an amazing phone call,” Mr Trump told WWOR. “I mean, 40 Wall Street actually was the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan. And it was actually – before the World Trade Center – was the tallest. And then when they built the World Trade Center, it became known as the second-tallest, and now it’s the tallest.”

        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/9-11-trump-tallest-building-manhattan-b2164420.html

        And, like most things Trump says, it wasn’t even true. It was never the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan.

        So, on 9/11, while first responders were digging through the rubble and pulling out corpses, Trump called up the biggest radio station in New York to lie about how tall his building was.

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          It was never the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan.

          Are you sure about that? It was once the tallest building in the world, then the second tallest (after the Chrysler Building), and (Wikipedia says so) after the 70 Pine Street was build the 2nd tallest in “Lower Manhattan”.

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            As the article I linked to said-

            As multiple fact checks later pointed out, this was not true. The Wall Street building had not been the tallest building in lower Manhattan in the 1970s, when the Twin Towers were constructed, nor was it the tallest in the area after 2001.

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    Russia attacking NATO would give a significant chunk of the globe the green light to obliterate Putin.

    This is likely the route to ending the war on Ukraine with the lowest loss of human life.

    So… Go on Putin, try it.

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      That would actually be 4d chess. Encourage Russia to invade and let Poland crush it

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        The problem with this is that Russia will rather take whole world down with it than admit defeat. They don’t obey the rules (and laws) of war.

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          Anymore. The Russians themselves did for a time. Case in point the times a russian actively prevented WW3 or rather a nuclear exchange.

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            That’s a fairy tale - just another piece of Russian propaganda you seem to be unaware of.

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              So you are telling me Arkhipov and Petrov where just propaganda figures to promote the “good will” of the soviet union?

              You can do that all day long, without hard facts I will not believe you, because both cases have been documented extensively and thoroughly. Ukrainian propaganda is doing a bad job, grasping at straws these days. I’m still 100% behind Ukraine, but negating everything and trying to paint anyone who isn’t in line as the bad guy is straight out of the soviet and russian handbooks.

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                Painting Russia as the rational side who actually wants peace and the evil West as the warmongers (not just for this war) is a fairy tale and one of the main taking points of Russian propaganda. I’m not saying you’re on their side but if you parrot them without putting it into perspective, you’re doing their bidding.

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                  I’d never paint Russia as the rational side - which is why the distinction between Russia and the Soviet Union AND the distinction between individuals is important, imho.

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        Ooooh right, nUcLeAr WaRfArE! Forgot about that. Yeah, we should probably just let them completely destroy Ukraine, and after they’re done, feed em whichever countries they want until they’ve had their fill.

        Anything to keep Putin placated!

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            Wats that?

            That’s the reason we need to not give Putin a free pass to commit whatever evil he wants. He’ll saber rattle all day long, but he knows the second he calls that order that he’s signing his own death sentence. He cares about himself above all else, so that shit ain’t gonna happen regardless of how loudly they hint about it.

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    Feeding his base. Republicans only platform is to trigger libs. They’re like monkeys throwing shit at their fellow citizens.

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    Had he just said that NATO countries are failing their duty as a member as they’re not paying the agreed amount of money for the alliance he would actually sound sane. Most Europeans agree to that. The governments have been slacking for years, and now there is a war. Again.

    Instead he talks like a lunatic. Fuck that guy.

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      I don’t think he’s talking to NATO countries anymore than he’s talking to his party.

      I think he’s asking Putin for help again.

      I don’t know that Putin really wants anything more from Trump though. He got the discord he wanted to distract the US. He got to flex on all of the world by Trump getting elected and demonstrating his spook prowess.

      But, that’s just my opinion, Putin has forgotten more about international politics and power than I’ll likely ever know.

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      Over 75 million people in this country are about to do that.

      Don’t like it? Get out and vote.

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      The fact that we’re still unsure that it’s going to keep him from getting elected is a thoroughly frightening prospect.

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    My only hope with a second Trump term is that when he inevitably drags the US out of NATO, the other member states invest more heavily into their military budgets, rally to support each other and make it a true defensive pact.

    NATO would definitely feel the hit of losing US support, but I don’t think this will tip the scales in Ukraine. If the other states chip in, I think they’ll hold out.

    It’s more hilarious that the Republican Party have managed to dupe their own stereotypically patriotic supporters into allowing them to sell out to Russia. Aren’t they forgetting the decades of anti-Commie propaganda being fed to them?

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      Ideally NATO would fall apart and cap the member states’ potential to commit their imperialism in the middle east.

      And modern capitalist Russia tries its best to put out anti-communist propaganda for its population too btw. The current governments of the US and Russia aren’t too different in that sense; the difference is that Russians have lived under Socialism and experienced the massively decreased quality of life after the country turned capitalist so the propaganda doesn’t quite work (with rising support for the USSR in recent years even)

      The reason Trump wants to ally with Russia is likely to sabotage China, the same way they sabotaged the USSR and contributed to its illegal dissolution by allying with China against them in the Cold War.

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    I’m over the insane sewage that spews from his mouth and not clicking on any trump articles (ragebait) … fuck the news they are salivating at the money if he is president again.

    So if anyone is feeling generous I’m a little OLL could you explain what these like dumbass ok hands are??? Is he about to do the batman hand mask?