Across America, clean energy plants are being banned faster than they’re being built::The clock is ticking toward a deadline to meet renewable-energy standards. But USA TODAY’s analysis finds local governments banning wind turbines, solar plants.
Wind mills do kill birds, but all you have to do to prevent it is paint one of the turbines black so it doesn’t blend into the sky when it is turning, allowing birds to avoid them. But unfortunately thay costs money and smooth brain fossil fuel stans would rather just poison the wind rather than harness it.
The currently existing design of wind turbines is incredibly stupid anyway, I have no idea how we landed on that design. It’s one of the least effective designs possible for it’s use case. We should be using spiral turbines.
The current three blade design of utility-scale turbines achieves about 80% of the Betz limit, are relatively efficient in materials for their output, and the blades’ pitch can be adjusted to control their speed in varying conditions (eg. during storms). I wouldn’t call their design “incredibly stupid”.
That looks like it would be hard to manufacture and transport at the size requirements that traditional blades are made. It’s already a massive pita to transport the traditional blades. I’m sure we’ll figure it out eventually, but that’s probably the current reasoning.
With the size they are, I wouldn’t just paint them black. It might throw off the balance. They should be shipping then black from factory.
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Who the fuck does this?
Republicans.
Is that those things I run into in caves in a JRPG?
No, they’re much scarier.
Evasion spammer?
Shadows. Always attack from behind to gain advantage.
To explain the farmer view on wind: I don’t want Industry/ugly ass turbines right next to me.
But banning solar is the dumbing fucking shit I’ve ever heard of. Bumfuckistan, Buckfuck Nowhere, my hometown at least has solar without a complaint.
Zero farmers want to ban wind. They want to lease their land to power generation companies. They do it all the time, especially where they just graze cattle or sheep. They can do both at the same time.
Farmers own land to make money, not look at it.
I used to think this, then my sister moved out to the country. The farmers and others who live out there bitch and bitch and bitch about the windmills because they look ugly, and all blink red lights synchronously at night and it’s creepy.
I think they just don’t like change, which is why they live in the middle of nowhere. I’m also fully in favor of windmills despite hearing their frustrations, I don’t have to live out there. They’ve never bothered me when I visit though.
But for farmers who don’t graze their animals near the windmills but instead plant crops, the lease doesn’t always cover the loss of cropland apparently. Because they can’t plant within a radius of the thing.
Cry more. I don’t want the climate change to kill everyone.
Edit: also if we’re complaining about ugly, let me make a list. I’ll start at people rolling coal and end at the fat acceptance people in my fit girls porn.
The sun is gonna torch the power-grid soon, also some mother fucker is dumping CFC in to atmosphere again.
Windmill cancer.
I had my conservative professor uncle tell me we can’t use windmills because “they use up all the wind.”
imagine having to explain to your elders that wind isn’t some finite resource.
Wind is finite, and there has actually been research done to estimate the impact slower winds would have (a few degrees iirc), it’s just that this is massively offset by the pros of using wind.
Seriously? What Facebook University source did you get that from?
no, wind is not a finite resource. it’s produced by the heating and cooling of the earth. Wind turbines aren’t doing anything to stop the sun from coming up and going down.
What else exactly did he think we needed wind for anyway?
Hate to break it to you but wind is a finite resource, it’s unlikely that earths inhabitants would ever saturate it -it is still quite possible just excessively unlikely.
Republicans retain power by sabotage
Each time there’s a new climate change fueled war, I’ll remember who was spouting lies during this pivotal period.
The water wars were won by desalinators
OMG this is the dumbest thing… In NY the town of Florida banned a windmill on waste property, then in racquet lake where they get all sorts of outages they stopped a battery from being installed because they might catch fire. These were BYD LFP batteries, and they were referencing LG chem batteries catching fire in Arizona as the reason.
Upstate NY is just the cold weather version of the Bible Belt.
I live in wny the windmills fucking suck. You spend your life savings buying property in the country with gorgeous scenery and views and bam farmer under the thumb of the state gets conned into putting windmills up and your peaceful piece of property is now staring at some dystopian looking shithole landacape. I dont do the conspiracy theories but i totally get voting to not allow windmills in an area you own property in.
I saw them in the little falls area they look fine to me. I’m sure they are noticed when people have lower energy bills.
These things look beautiful though
Right? I can get “it’s not the view I signed up for” or something, but my dude you do not own the view. You want to own the view it costs a hell of a lot more
All you have to do is sell power cheaper then them from a source that is also clean or decrease the usage and bam less demand for windmills
Awful, we really need some kind of federal fast track for these sorts of badly needed projects that cuts through the NIMBY bullshit.
Are you kidding me? I opened the article in order to find reasons for banning but after like reading 10min, I gave up, it is such a repetitive article with so many useless words… Has someone a TLDR?
Former President Donald Trump often denigrates wind and solar power in his speeches. In December in New Hampshire, he said, falsely, that wind farms only last 10 years, that they kill “all the birds,” that solar energy isn’t powerful enough to run factories and that wind is 42 times more expensive than natural gas.
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“It’s going to change our lifestyle and the landscape and everything around here,” he said.
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The opposition sometimes leads to surprising arguments about property rights, in which some landowners invoke concepts like a claim to a “viewshed” – views they want free of wind turbines or solar panels. These opponents clash with others who champion a different view of private property rights, saying landowners should be free to build what they want.
I see, the oil and coal lobby, who would have thought
Cozied on up with Nimbys.
Nimbys are truly Karen’s in their final form.
Ok. I want to be free of sky scrapers. Ban them. Remind me again why my opinion about this doesn’t matter.
A lot of places do have limits like that. Plus style choices in the building codes.
Oil companies
What’s this from?
Good Omens
I mean, this isn’t so bad. While the rest of the world lives in a solar punk future, the US could be like some secluded cyberpunk bubble that would give many scholars in the future stuff to write their thesis about, while also providing a good source of memes for the rest of enlightened humanity.
Here in NZ
Everyone living in megacities on top of nuclear reactors
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…but like, so do fossil fuels, you just don’t immediately see it. It’s lead to so much contamination and death you’ll never directly witness and is actively destroying everything vs “oh no, that pretty hill!”.
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Well it does kill birds.
No they don’t, birds neither like the noise or turbulence so they avoid them. Skyscrapers kill birds. This is decades-old and disproven FUD I hope you at least get money for peddling fossil fuel lobby talking points.
And “oh no that pretty hill” will be ruined for all eternity, including future generations.
Oh no! The Hill!
What about the fucking rest of nature and the planet. Is that hill even high enough to still be above water in 100 years. Is it going to get eroded away by massive rainfall.
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We already produce more than enough energy for ourselves.
My state is also producing more than enough for ourselves. Being just as flat as Denmark (and bordering it) we send you tons of that energy to pump into hydrostorage to then export again. It’s practially all windpower.
As to imports: if you don’t want to send us energy we’ll have to stop sending you steel and chemical products. Also Germany is a net exporter of electricity, I don’t like it either much of it is coal. Notable importer: France, with all their nuclear plants they have to shut down in the summer to not turn their rivers into bouillabaisse.
dead birds
Literally just commenting to say I fucking love that graphic lol
Coal and nat gas also kill birds. Well basically any system that exhausts huge steam vats into the air just absolutely blast some birds.
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Are you totally self sufficient? I thought a lot of the social programs are supported by the sales of natural gas.
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