• zeus ⁧ ⁧ ∽↯∼@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    who even decides what’s “modern” anymore?

    can anyone, honestly, without reading the article (or guessing from the headline), tell me which of these is the "modern" design?

    screenshot of the nautilus file manager in light mode screenshot of the nautilus file manager in light mode

    edit: people are getting confused by the fact that one is tree view, not icons view so i changed the image. old image here

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        1 year ago

        I think “modern” can be interpreted as nice and clean UI which is beautiful to watch and only the absolutely most important stuff is shown and the rest is hidden. So, like apple design approaches, I guess. Say form over function. Microsoft tends to go that route as well. Luckily for user who like function over form, there are different flavors of Linux.

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      It’s just my opinion (since it’s not in the article) but a thing that makes Gnome and Libadwaita a “modern design” is the fact that the production behind it tries to bridge the gap between a “mouse and keyboard” and a “touch screen” workflow.
      None of the other DEs come even close to Gnome when used on a tablet

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        1 year ago

        Agreed, I’m not an expert, kind of new to linux, but I could see being very comfortable on a Gnome based tablet.

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        1 year ago

        meh, subjectively i find that creates a “worst of both worlds” situation. but this comment was more about the futility of the development time that went into this specific feature

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          this comment was more about the futility of the development time that went into this specific feature

          yeah sorry, I should have been more specific with my answer: features like this are supposed to help you in a touch screen situation or in general with smaller screens.
          When the window is resized under a certain size, the left panel becomes hidden and with it part of the top bar, to make it less cluttered and confusing.

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            1 year ago

            but …surely you could just do the same thing with the old design? artist’s rendition:

            in fact, now i look at it, it makes them look even more similar once i collapse the sidebar

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              The difference is minimal, in the newer version you have 1 less element when the sidebar is collapsed (the hamburger menu).
              Generally speaking Gnome 44 is already well optimized, 45 is going to be a more “tweaks and small improvements” kind of update rather than a big design changes

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      The first one doesn’t waste space in the title bar by expanding the locator and navigator buttons there.

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      1 year ago

      Petition to force anyone talking about software to use “trendy” or “fashionable” instead of “modern”.

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      1 year ago

      It’d be kinda nice if they made these kinds of changes options rather than just deciding this is best

      Could honestly take it or leave it, doesn’t really add anything

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        i’m not even sure it’s worth having an option. i don’t think i’d even have noticed a difference, apart from the menu button being in a slightly different place to every other gnome app. it’s fine; but it wasn’t worth the development time

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        1 year ago

        Well I just switched to KDE Plasma last week and I’m pleasantly surprised just how many things are configurable via a menu and how well it runs on Wayland With a Nvidia GPU.

        I used to despise KDE Neon, and used Gnome for a bit, but I don’t think I can go back anymore until their design philosophy changes again.

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          Problem for me is KDE is dependant on configuration to get it to look nice, GNOME looks nice and works well out of the box but sucks if you want to do anything ontop of that base

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      1 year ago

      Honestly, I haven’t yet seen the article, the light theme one is probably newer because of tabs.

      Anyways both look like an android app, I know most will hate reading this but Windows Explorer rules.

      • zeus ⁧ ⁧ ∽↯∼@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        nah, i agree with you. win explorer with qttabbar, tortoisegit, and some tweaks from winaerotweaker

        dolphin is pretty good though and it has some features that explorer doesn’t, like a terminal pane