• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    11 months ago

    “shall be respected and protected in ALL CIRCUMSTANCES”. This absolutely is a clear cut issue.

    • HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      If you had the full section, yes.

      You missed the part where a patient refrains from all acts of hostility (Hamas one wasnt), and terrorists don’t qualify at patients (two jihadists). Otherwise i could break a leg, admit myself to hospital and be free to plan and act upon anything I wanted.

      Those who fall under the protection are protected in all situations. Active combatants and terrorists don’t fall under the protection of the convention.

    • AlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦@lemmy.world
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      It’s not when they themselves require “the fulfilment of two cumulative criteria: a person must require medical care and must refrain from any act of hostility.

      Again, since you’re fully confident in this, go ask the journal to retract the article I linked to. Show them how they should read the Geneva Convention, that it “shouldn’t be a debate” and that it shouldn’t even require an article.

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          11 months ago

          Being in a hospital bed doesn’t make you a non combatant - like other poster said, it’s also what you are doing from that bed.

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            11 months ago

            CNN just stated that according to the hospital, he was sleeping when he was killed.

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              11 months ago

              In the nicest way possible- irrelevant. Doesnt matter if you were awake any more than falling asleep on watch.

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                11 months ago

                I admit to a certain personal bias having just spent 4 days in 2 hospitals, it’s hard to be planing military action when you have tubes running in and out.

                This guy was apparently recovering from shrapnel injuries. He wasn’t actively being a threat to anyone.

                (caution - GRAPHIC photos)

                https://www.reuters.com/world/this-is-moment-israeli-commandos-disguised-palestinians-walked-into-jenin-2024-01-30/

                “Niji Nazzal, the hospital’s medical director, told Reuters the three were executed as they slept, shot in the head with silenced pistols in the room where they were being treated.”

                “Hospital sources said one of the three, Basel Al-Ghazzawi, had been paralysed when he was wounded by shrapnel during a clash between Israeli forces and Palestinian militants in October, and was in a wheelchair.”

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                  11 months ago

                  Yes, it would be difficult with tubes running out of you - but not every hospital visit requires that.

                  This would be a much clearer issue if we had security footage of the exact moment they were killed, what was in the room, and what reaction each had. Unfortunately what we have looks like a sterilized room (evidence, not germ) and general statements that aren’t lining up - little blood stains for three people killed by gunfire, nothing in the room except shoes (no bags, clothes, medical equipment apart from the bed including the supposed wheelchair he was in or supposed firearms), and shot by silenced pistols when the team went in with assault rifles?

                  I mean, at the end of the day we probably won’t get the full story, thats up to international courts. But fuck there’s alot of misinformation and blatant incorrect statements.

                  Oh, and sorry to hear about your hospital stay - hope you aren’t in a user pays system.