I feel like I’ve been gaslit into running FOSS but every success only brings me closer to fighting god
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Reddit death > installing mint on my second PC > realising I can run most of the games I play and installing mint on my main PC > start learning Rust as a first foray into programming in a long time > realise I want to go back to uni and study info tech to get out of my shitty marketing job > get a shitty second hand laptop off my parents that struggles to run windows and install endeavourOS to try something different.
It really is a slippery slope. When does it end???
It really is a slippery slope. When does it end???
It ends when you open vim. There’s no escape.
Having no escape is a very big problem if you want to use Vim…
You still have yet to get through some pis, then a couple of OSX boxes, a Windows VM on proxmox or when you find something in particular you want that’s easier in that direction. Then move into kubernetes.
You’ll end up with a couple of everything living their best life.
It never ends
The next step, you’re handwriting a fixit code because said ancient one off laptop won’t compile linux from scratch properly and some stupid piece of essential hardware is blocking your efforts to get to the shell first time.
Next you want to rewrite everything in Rust.
Watch out Boy! It’s a dangerous drug; it’s called Curiosity 🙂
My slippery slope started with buying an old laptop off my company and deciding to install Ubuntu on it. Now all of my devices run Linux, I switched to Android with a FOSS ROM, degoogled myself in almost every way, and I run Nextcloud on an old laptop. Feels great to really own my devices and data.
I already ran Linux when the API blew up but now I’m a girl…
Lmfao
queen behaviour
Now you just need to remove snaps. And then when Canonical still forces them on you, you move to Linux Mint, but then Linux mint won’t be updated as often as you’d like. So then you move to Arch. Then you’ll really be one of us
coughDebiancough
😁
Isn’t that the least updated of the above choices? (if you run stable)
Debian testing is the way (perhaps haven’t tried it but I’m intrigued to know the experience) 🤔
I’m just getting in on the fun.
Everyone should run Kali. 🤪
Well don’t the testing versions like Debian Sid get updates regularly enough ?
Mint to Arch?
That’s like saying: “ok now that you have driven your for first car for a few weeks it’s time to fly your first plane. Good luck.”
Mint to Manjaro so you can still claim you’re on arch btw but cling onto your sanity until Manjaro devs inevitability break something
That was me as a Linux noob 5 years ago
I’ve never used snaps and never been forced to use them.
“been forced” part is definitely true for Firefox and Thunderbird packages. Snap packages takes precedence over deb package, if I remember it correctly.
It is difficult to switch out the Firefox snap for the deb. If you install anything from the easy-to-use software store it’ll be a snap.
I’m glad I know my way around the terminal tools
Best way is to add Mozilla deb repo,IMO.
The deb is in the Ubuntu repositories by default.
But I just installed Firefox with apt-get. Fairly certain it doesn’t install the snap version that way.
It can. There was a ‘feature’ in Ubuntu before that made apt actually fetch the Snap version instead. I think this was the case for Chromium and Firefox. I don’t know if this is still the case though.
Can you check if you already have Mozilla deb repo setup on your ubuntu installation?
I don’t run Linux (though I’m admittedly more interested in it than I used to be) but the reddit API stuff definitely made me learn more about foss, and value it more.
I do value FOSS sodtware and like linux for it being foss(there are many other reasons too though). I do think understanding importance of Free software is much important than admiring one of the(most important) free software projects. I can see yku usibg linux soon or later in the future, along with other free programs
I think maybe I’m misunderstanding—are you saying that valuing free software is more important than valuing FOSS? FOSS is inherently free, no? Free Open Source Software. I would understand if I was talking about open source in general, but FOSS does include being free. Maybe that’s not what you meant.
Sorry I mean valuing foss/free ideology rather than just one of such software called linux.
Ah, I understand
Yes, FOSS will allow you to fight God.
But you will have to assemble him first.
If we are in a simulation it means God is the ascended version of a gigantic Linux server
I got pissed off at Google Photos, which led me down a self-hosting rabbit hole. Ended up installing Linux everywhere, even my “gaming” one eventually (I do development, and WSL was a resource hog).
The hardest thing to degoogle has been email - I’ve used the same address for years. But I use Thunderbird so at least I don’t have to see ads in my fucking inbox
I quite like Proton mail it’s secure and the interface is pretty damn good
There are ads in Gmail?
I guess I’ve been using ad blockers for far too long…
Yes… They don’t seem to show up in the primary tab, but they’re there nonetheless. Nowhere is safe, and nothing is sacred.
If you’re seeing ads, install an ad blocker. I haven’t seen a Gmail ad in well over a decade.
I DO have an ad blocker. I still ended up seeing an ad, that one time. It might’ve been on mobile. Or I might have had my ad block turned off. Either way, I’ve gone out of my way to make sure I never see an ad in my email again. Used mobile devtools to uninstall the Gmail client, Firefox with uBlock add-on, etc…
Thry are also apparently using the tab configuration.
May I recommend Proton Mail? I used gmail for years then decided to finally switch and it was easier than I thought, tho tbf I also don’t have a lot of people who need to email me, it was mostly services where it’s easier to tell them to switch over to the other mail.
EDIT: I read your later comment nvm
I’ll have to check it out! Same here, mostly services on my end - but I’ve accumulated enough of them to make it tiresome. Still, I’ll have to do it at some point
What are you using instead of Google Photos?
I’m the other way round, email was the first thing I degoogled. It’s Photos I don’t know how to replace.
ente.io is OK.
You could switch to proton mail and synchronize the gmail account to proton, saves the hassle 👍
Welcome to the community! If you need any help you have the Ubuntu forums and Lemmy because fuck Reddit
One of us! One of us
Just wait till you start the estradiol…
Oh friend-… I’m on the other side. 8 years on T 💪💉. But yes. We’re all queer.
I was told that linux doesn’t work on the Spectrum oO
On Lemmy it exclusively works on the spectrum.
I was referring to the spectrum computer, which can’t run Linux. It wasn’t about people on the Spectrum, which are probably all of us, in some fashion?
If you ever get bored of Ubuntu. You could try fedora kde, the recent versions are so good.
Don’t forget to install codecs though.
Weird. I’ve been trying to find a distro I’m happy with and was setting Fedora KDE up today. Ran though my bookmarks and found no videos played on Twitch. Had to install codecs to get it to work. I hadn’t seen this in previous distros. Is this specific to Fedora? Other than this hiccup I’ve enjoyed it so far.
I liked how straight forward Linux Mint is but prefer KDE Plasma. Plus Mint seems quite far behind in versions.
In their gnome version, during the setup process (first boot, not install), they would prompt for third-party repo and codec (Enabled by default, IIRC).
I think you might have unchecked that? or KDE not offering such experience?
EDIT: NVM, I just checked, and I have never installed the codecs… LOL.
Fedora is notorious for avoiding shipping proprietary software with their distro even at the cost of new users.
I think this might stems from the fact that fedora used to be a distro aimed for advanced users. It is slowly getting better at being new user friendly.
Yeah, I don’t recall seeing that and installed it about four times.
Haha the pain of finding out…
Didn’t you notice the decreased quality?
Yeah, I was wondering why I have desync issues couple days ago watching videos with my wife.
Modern YouTube videos are generally fine, but many other site has poor support for popular codecs.
I run Kubuntu on my desktop and laptop machines but I’m seriously considering switching to Debian (which I run on my server). Any reason I wouldn’t want to do that on my desktop or laptop?
(Previously I ran Slackware on everything, so both of them feel like gliding softly on a cloud to me.)
There’s no reason. I switched to Debian after leaving Slackware around the reiser4 time. It’s real good.
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Yeah it seems to work very well on my server. I’ve always just wondered why I don’t see more people recommending it when they’re switching from Ubuntu/Kubuntu. From what I’ve seen on the server (which I mostly access remotely), it seems decent.
It’s not cool. It means you have gray hairs. The packages are old by default.
Well I do have some gray hairs, so no issue there…
May I recommend lxqt and a trackball?
lol Listen here, sonny…
You probably will not notice that you are in other distro when you start using Debian. They are the same in most things, but without Snaps and most propietary stuff (by default. But if you really need propietary things, you may see the official non-free sourcelist)
Thanks. I often wonder why I don’t see people recommending Debian as a potential destination from Ubuntu/Kubuntu. Why not go to the Free source?
I really do not know. But what I can say for sure is that during the installation of Debian, it allows you to choose the desktop environment at installation time, so you can have your Debian with KDE at minute 0 after installing it.
On the other hand, remember that Kubuntu is derived from Ubuntu. I don’t see Ubuntu fans very enthusiastic about creating another Debian-based distro with KDE preinstalled when they even offer it (live images) to you here.
You could try fedora kde
I love me some Fedora with KDE, and looking forward to the next major version of KDE.
Same. I didn’t know what a distribution was 8 months ago, now most of my feeds are Linux distro tier list video.
It happened to me too.
It’s a good reminder of how influenced we are by our surroundings, even when we try to be aware of the effect. Or maybe especially when we try to be aware.
I was staying strong until I saw they were already sundowning windows 10. 10! They just came out with that shit. I have no intention of upgrading to the latest advertising package.
Welcome. I just started using linux recently myself and have been loving it. I would Definitely recommend checking out all the desktop environments to see what works best for you! I’ve done a bit of shopping and I think I’ve landed on KDE, myself.
Good luck with the transition!it really is comforting to know you can do 99% of stuff you want with PCs without a license from Microsoft. FOSS has its own headaches but at least you don’t have to wade through a PR swamp to fix stupid bugs
