• KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 months ago

    its this EXACT same thing but with soccer and football, granted there is actual history there, im going to ignore it because it’s funnier that way.

    europe created the term soccer, and then got rid of it, and then took up football, so the US started using soccer, because it had already used football, for well, football. Shocker i know. And so now we still use soccer, but they use football.

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      11 months ago

      This is true only in the vaguest sense.

      1. “Europe” didn’t invent the term soccer. A specific group of people in England did.
      2. Those people were upper class posh boys, the same ones who call rugby “rugger”. They are not the people who support football today or made football what it is around the world.
      3. If you can’t tell, it’s an obvious nickname for something. The equivalent of one nation deciding to exclusively call basketball “shootin’ hoops”.
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        11 months ago

        “Hoops” is an objectively better name for the sport ever since we got rid of the baskets.

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        11 months ago

        Looks like the name is far more confusing than that. Apparently, ‘football’ used to mean multiple types of games, soccer started out as ‘association football,’ and then a British public school took ‘association’ and turned it into ‘asoccer,’ which spread to Oxford and became common there and then everyone else started calling it ‘soccer’ but then they dropped ‘soccer’ in favor of just ‘football’ except in countries which already had a football, which was sometimes the same as rugby.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_football#Name

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        11 months ago

        why did you have to ruin my funny with logic and reason?

        jokes aside i realize it’s a little more complex than i let on, but it’s the same spirit as the original post so meh.

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      11 months ago

      Doesn’t change the fact that football makes more sense and that while the British did come up with soccer literally every country uses something like football.

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        11 months ago

        this also doesnt change the fact that if we called football football and football football we would be confusing football with football, and football with football, instead of having two succinct names that are clearly identifiable.

        And even then most words don’t make very much sense. It’s just english.