You know what that means: Gifting a sub with Prime is about to go away and so are all the loot drops with Prime. Also, more no opt out ads, longer preroll ads, and a larger list of partnered games getting headway.
So you know typical enshittification stuff.
This always makes me wonder how their operation can be so pricey.
It sounds more like their human resource cost is just absurd, not that their underlying technical operation is the problem. Plus assuming they did any calculation on the ads at all, their server usage should pay for itself as more load means more views means more ad impressions.
But what does Twitch need X-thousand people for if they still cannot do anything about curating content with those endless people? All I see of them is someone writing flip-flopping statements about whether nudity on stream is okay or not, always depends on which month it is it feels like.
Video encoding is an expensive operation and probably the second largest cost next to wages. And apparently they aren’t even on an AWS SLA.
AN AMAZON SUBSIDIARY NOT ON AN SLA
Are they really a revenue sink to cover up taxable income?
Shouldn’t the encoding happen locally, on the user’s computer, before it’s even sent to Twitch?
The user doesn’t send several different resolutions of video, the streamer just sends the source, and once thay have enough viewers, twitch reduces the resolution on their side so the viewer can choose either quality.
Or they just shutter twitch once they realize it’s unprofitable.
If you are bad at your job, you lose your job. If the CEO is bad at their job, you lose your job. If the CEO is REALLY bad at their job, they get a golden parachute.
I simply don’t believe this. They probably don’t count all the gamers, who get Amazon prime for all the twitch loot. Then you also have people who throw around subs like confetti. Thot streams.
I simply don’t believe this.
Best financial analysis I’ve ever heard. But maybe look up video hosting and streaming costs before speculating so confidently?
It is believable when you remember that American companies simply don’t need to be profitable anymore
Maybe he should take a big pay cut if he’s doing that bad a job
Is our business plan out of touch?
No, it’s the employees who are wrong.
Oh please they couldn’t fucking handle moderation I don’t trust them to handle fucking money either.
Let it rot
What’s your alternative? YouTube?
Kinda? Though they need a better discovery page for live streams.
Maybe we don’t actually need 10 hours of video game playing and bikini wearing at a time. Maybe that’s not a good product.
Clearly people want it. Who are you to say what’s a good product?
The average^^@ user watches Twitch from 4pm to 5.30pm twice a week. There is absolutely a delta between what is required to be a profitable service, what is quality entertainment and what the service is and does currently.
^^@ this isn’t literal, but illustrative
No idea how you can come to any of these conclusions given that viewer numbers are publicly visible. If this were true the streamers wouldn’t be live as much as they are outside these hours.
Justin.tv 2.
I’ll be honest, if the solution is Twitch, then I don’t need my problem solved. That is, compared to Twitch, I don’t need an alternative. Not having Twitch is a solid improvement over having Twitch. (kidding of course, but all too often it feels like that with just how bad the technical aspects of their site are)
Where’s that article that shows firms that make workers redundant are worse off in the long run when one needs it? Fuck these cunts. Maybe we should just get rid of capitalism instead.
I’ve never understood the appeal of watching twitch streams, I enjoy the edited compiled stuff with all the boring moments cut out that ends up on YouTube sometimes, but I see no point in watching a dude eating and drinking and staring at his monitor and shouting out to viewers.
Maybe then watch better streams. I usually watch streamers play games while talking to the chat or commenting on the gameplay, while I play a similar game. It’s entertaining.
There’s a lot more than just dudes eating and shouting.
Is it the infrastructure costs? I imagine that costs quite a bit
They pay themselves for infrastructure costs effectively, so it would be the wholesale price. Would love to see their actual accounting book, public data says they made 2.8 billion, would love to see where it went.
I’ve heard (yes anecdotal) that on the books, Twitch pays AWS full retail for server time.
Makes me wonder if that’s done on purpose? Amazon just wants to kill Twitch and rent out IVS (their internal system) to other streaming platforms (like they do for Kick). THAT is outside money coming in.
Tech companies have rate cards for valued customers or internal use. Netflix don’t pay retail price for AWS, nor do Amazon subsidiaries.
Source: Work there, and have worked at companies with yearly defined rate cards. If Twitch are paying retail price, they’re being mugged.
They recently left South Korea too.
Data is surprisingly cheap. It’s more than likely just reinvesting any profits into growth to boost stock price/investment. A lot of companies are hitting the point where growth is leveling off, so they’ve switched to cutting costs
They thought the party was going to last forever, so they ordered a bunch of jumbo pizzas and kegs
I mean it’s more like they paid themselves a bunch of bonuses and hired super duper growth hacking experts or whatever, and now they can’t pay for them, so god forbid they cut from the top
Bandwidth, which you need for streaming is not cheap
Former Amazon employee here - Twitch is IMO a perfect example of Amazon tactics. Acquire, ignore, drain the engineering team down to a skeleton crew, further en- 💩 -ify the platform, and then wonder why profits are dwindling.
Wow who knew that capitulating to neo-nazis wasn’t profitable.
