I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.

While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?

I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.

  • TCB13@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Many of your points are management bullshit.

    Yes, they are and I never said they weren’t management BS. Nevertheless management pays the bills, management makes the decision.

    The key point is that they want a contract with a company so they can discard the responsability of failures on someone out of their own company.

    You’re just saying what I said before…

    The last problem is from Microsoft that worked hard these last years to remove any compatibility between office and other softwares of this kind

    Yes, but the end result is that nobody sane would even risk not using MS Office and that’s what it is.

    Large companies need an it service for Windows on top of the licences and infrastructure. It’s way cheaper with Linux.

    It depends, integration between MS products and services usually comes out of the box or working with minimal setup while with open-source solutions / Linux that isn’t always the case. Also Windows sysadmins are usually cheaper because you can get more and they require less training to be “efficient” than Linux ones.

    The biggest work with an enterprise Linux is to make it compatible with the shitty Windows environment, and the compliance with the useless security thought for windows.

    Yes but you still have do it and it has a cost. Simply going full Windows is cheaper at that point.

    • bouh@lemmy.world
      2·
      11 months ago

      That’s where we disagree : anybody sane would use Linux rather than windows. Windows usage is based on ignorance.

      You have zero idea about Windows system integration if you think it comes out of the box. Or you live in America. In Europe, data safety is a concern, and it raises many, many problems with Windows “out of the box”.

      • Pappabosley@lemmy.world
        1·
        11 months ago

        There are still use cases for windows. We have a predominately Linux environment (server and desktop), and a development team that build 80% of our operational software. That team are not fans of windows, but come across quite a few use cases where they have to use it because a 3rd party program won’t run on Linux; or an external connection requires a windows service; or there is no comparable product available on Linux (MS Excel is the one thing keeping me on windows). Even ignorance plays a part, because end users can still have had limited access to technology over their lives and in Australia that usually means windows computers in schools. I deal with staff in their 20’s and 30’s who know nothing of how technology works outside of “push that button and the thing happens”, if that button is a different colour, or shape, or location, shift is over, go home - they don’t care why it’s changed and definitely don’t want to learn a new way to do it. We’re somewhere between American data cowboys and the GDPR when it comes to data safety in Australia, which MS can be BS at and the integration burns more of our teams time than it should, but it’s still a necessary evil - even if it’s just when dealing with customers and vendors

        • bouh@lemmy.world
          1·
          11 months ago

          If excel is keeping you on Linux, you’re doing it wrong. The problem here is undoubtedly ignorance and nothing else.

          If it’s another program, wine made immense progresses these last years. You want to check about it.

          Now, if you’re saying Linux is not ready out of the box, that’s true, but neither is Windows. Not if you have any important need. Windows is good for a customer, not for a company.

          BTW Linux changed in the last ten years. It’s not the neckbeard system it used to be.

          • Pappabosley@lemmy.world
            2·
            11 months ago

            Now that I have a work laptop, I’ve installed Linux on my home computer and it was simple and runs fantastically - actual results may vary as I work in IT and have grown up with a high tech involved family. However, the hill I’m happy to die on, is the fact that using Excel above a basic level in business, where information needs to be shared with non-technical staff cannot be replicated in Linux, and that Excel is still the best product to do this.

            • bouh@lemmy.world
              2·
              11 months ago

              This is wrong about excel. Most thing excel do can be done with libreoffice. People are lazy to learn and convert their documents, and Microsoft does everything possible to make this harder.

                • bouh@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  11 months ago

                  Maybe you don’t know what empirically means? Your ignorance is not a proof for anything. I know what I can do with libreoffice, and I am very mediocre with it. I’ve never seen an excel document that couldn’t be done with libreoffice.

                  And I wrote most things that can be done with excel. Now, if you want something that can be debated, I posit that anything that can’t be done in libreoffice calc but can be in excel is not worth doing in excel.