LOS ANGELES (AP) — A new California law that bans people from carrying firearms in most public places was once again blocked from taking effect Saturday as a court case challenging it continues.

A 9th Circuit Court of Appeals panel dissolved a temporary hold on a lower court injunction blocking the law. The hold was issued by a different 9th Circuit panel and had allowed the law to go into effect Jan. 1.

Saturday’s decision keeps in place a Dec. 20 ruling by U.S. District Judge Cormac Carney blocking the law. Carney said that it violates the Second Amendment and that gun rights groups would likely prevail in proving it unconstitutional.

The law, signed by Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom, prohibits people from carrying concealed guns in 26 types of places including public parks and playgrounds, churches, banks and zoos. The ban applies regardless of whether a person has a concealed carry permit.

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    A policeman sees a drunk man searching for something under a streetlight and asks what the drunk has lost. He says he lost his keys and they both look under the streetlight together. After a few minutes the policeman asks if he is sure he lost them here, and the drunk replies, no, and that he lost them in the park. The policeman asks why he is searching here, and the drunk replies, “this is where the light is”.

    Concealed-carry permit holders aren’t the ones who commit gun crimes, but because they’re the ones who actually follow the law, they’re the ones that are targeted by these draconian rules.

    In California, no shooting by a CCW holder has ever occurred at an existing protected location or one proposed by SB 2. In fact, concealedcarrykillers.org lists just 5 homicides having been committed by CCW holders in California in the last 24 years.

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      So draconian that I don’t want someone to bring a gun to a public playground or the fucking zoo.

      no shooting by a CCW holder has ever occurred at an existing protected location

      Oh wow maybe the ban works? Noooo it’s definitely because you scared idiots carrying weapons around all day are just SO responsible.

      Hey you know who’s 100% responsible for all gun violence? PEOPLE WITH GUNS.

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        “Subset X of large group Y has committed a negligible amount of crime Y in the last generation.”

        “NO YOU IDIOT, LARGE GROUP Y DOES ALL OF CRIME Y, JUST THINK!!!”

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          Oh sorry I forgot only a subset of the people that own a thing made to kill other people actually kill other people. Good point go ahead and bring those guns hidden in your pants to a kids park or whatever. I feel so much safer now.

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            These kinds of laws are already in effect in Chicago. Guns come in freely via Indiana where it’s constitutional carry, plus other means. It turns out that banning guns only means that law abiding citizens — which as the above commenter pointed out, statistically almost never use their weapons criminally — stop carrying and criminals have carte blanche to go target practicing on defenseless meat bags.

            CA is a massive state, and I’m sure it has plenty of weapons. Criminals aren’t going to magically stop committing gun crime because of a stupid law, and if anything it will only embolden them as they’re less likely to encounter a CC citizen. Guns will continue to flow in via NV, AZ, and Mexico.

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        You’re preaching to the wrong crowd, dude. Most White Americans straight up fuckin love guns and gun ownership more than they do some of their own family members