Hi everyone!
I need to buy a new laptop to replace my 12 years old laptop. I didn’t look after hardware for a while for some personal reasons.
I will buy something new. My needs are:
- photo editing
- video editing
- vector graphics editing/creation
- good battery life (I don’t want to worry about)
- web navigating, docs, spreadsheets
- USB-C charging would be nice
I don’t game, and Framework isn’t available where I live.
I would be happy to have some recommendation on what is a good hardware for this use and good brand.
Thanks!
Tuxedo computers could be a good fit I think? It’s like system76, but from Germany. You can pick from a few OS including an Ubuntu fork they made ( tuxedo os ). You can tweak the laptop yourself ( different you/CPUs/disk sizes/… ) to fit your use case.
https://www.tuxedocomputers.com
Personally I’ve never bought there, but a friend of mine has and he’s happy with his purchase.
Note: I do not work for them, or am affiliated with them in any way.
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Just get a thinkpad.
Easy choice. Takes out the guesswork.
Yeah, Thinkpad’s are at the end of the IQ curve.
Any T or P series with the minimum specs you’re lokkung for. Tons on eBay.
My two cents; if you want to use Linux on it, then do yourself a favor and pick a laptop from a Linux-first vendor. So the likes of NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo and others found on the link over here come to mind. Besides that, it’s important that the device in question either has a dedicated GPU (or at least supports eGPUs). Furthermore, choose a device with relatively high battery capacity; they go up to ~99 Wh, so pick something that’s at least relatively close to that number.
I highly recommend avoiding this rhetoric because you will end up paying more for inferior hardware.
You are not actually “doing yourself a favor.”
Ultimately, any discussion on this would boil down to cost vs convenience. As OP hasn’t explicitly stated anything on this regard, it seems unproductive to delve into this further. However, strictly speaking, I have to agree with you that the Linux-first vendors are (in almost all cases) more expensive. Thank you for pointing that out for OP.
In case you're as bored as I am 😅.
Let’s start with stating some facts from OP:
- OP takes the effort to state six wishes/requirements without mentioning price.
- OP implies to at least have considered the Framework laptop, for which the 16 inch variant -the one actually capable of video editing etc- is not a cheap device either.
- OP states: “I don’t want to worry about” when talking about battery life. If anything, that sounds like one that would prefer convenience over cost.
Therefore, I assumed that OP wasn’t cost-limited by any means (they didn’t state it anyways).
Anyhow, allow me to illustrate how much OP might have to “pay more” for “inferior hardware”:
- Found this one on https://old.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals, a site which you mentioned elsewhere under OP. Seems like a cool laptop, not gonna lie. It’s just a random one I picked. Let’s see what we can find on the other side:
- Well look at that? Better CPU and better battery, just all around a great package (it even has a mechanical keyboard?!). Furthermore. better warranty terms and possible to extend to 5 years (compared to a measly 1 year for the other laptop). Yes, it’s a significantly more expensive laptop. But, (for me) it’s clearly the superior deal especially when the Linux support is considered. You’re absolutely free to disagree though 😉.
Just my two cents… But my x1 carbon, running tumbleweed has been my single greatest Linux on laptop experience, ever… And I’ve used many different laptops over the years. System76, framework, Lenovo, Dell, Asus, hp, apple… My x1 has been absolutely amazing!
That’s very valuable! Thank you for mentioning that! To make it even more relevant to OP, I would like to pose the following questions:
- Which CPU?
- Which GPU?
- How has the battery life been? Consider both light and heavy use*
Thank you in advance!
Cpu is an i5, and I forget what specific model but I can check. My carbon is an older Gen 5. It also just uses the Cpu for graphics… No dedicated graphics card. Battery life is good concidering the age (the battery is still original, and I get probably 3 hrs with moderate use. My carbon also is the 8gb (ram) model. On this particular model the ram is soldered on, so upgrading isn’t an option (without replacing the board, obviously).
Now, for me… I use the machine for work. I’m a systems administrator and spend most of my time remotong into servers and end user machines… So the work load on the laptop is on the lighter side. I do have various vm’s that I spin up form time to time, but never more than one at a time.
Anyway, as I said before, it has been the single greatest Linux experience on a laptop I’ve ever had. Everything just works, and it’s been rock solid. I’ve been running this machine as a daily driver for work now for about three years.
Edit: Love the down vote, also. Makes me feel like this is reddit all over again. Lmao. Down vote for sharing an opinion of what’s been the best Linux on laptop experience I’ve ever had. Whoever down voted me… Can you correct me and tell me the correct answer for what has been the best Linux experience on a laptop? I’m obviously mistaken.
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences! I’m afraid it might not be very relevant as it’s a device that’s at least 6 years old by now 😅 (at least according to this source. Regardless, user experiences are valuable. And I’m glad to hear that the device has been working flawlessly for you so far 😊.
Love the down vote, also. Makes me feel like this is reddit all over again. Lmao. Down vote for sharing an opinion of what’s been the best Linux on laptop experience I’ve ever had.
Haters gonna hate, I guess. Don’t worry too much about it. The thread you’re in (so the one starting with my first reply under this post) also is the most controversial under this post. So I wouldn’t be surprised if some folks just down voted indiscriminately for… some reason…
As someone who frequents the laptop market, I’ll throw in my two-cents.
If you’re looking for value, don’t compromise on performance, buy refurbished.
While I’m certain it is definitely different from country to country, a refurbished laptop typically has more life to give in them.
I’d recommend business laptops, such as the Dell Latitudes or the Lenovo Thinkpads, but an M1 MacBook Air provides an absolutely shocking amount of performance for the price.
Checking sites like eBay or the pages of hardware resellers rather than big box stores is definitely where I’d go.
I will not compromise on the performance. I will definitively look to the refurbished units. The biggest issue we have here, it’s we are a small country and our own keyboard layout (the keyboard isn’t a real issue).
Thanks for the help.
starlabs maybe?
Too many choices to help narrow it down for you. But you need to keep your own workflow in mind when picking out your CPU and GPU, for the software compatibility.
I use Davinci Resolve for my video editing, one of the few Professional NLE officially supported on Linux. Intel’s iGPU is incompatible with the software at this time. There are hacks and unofficial patches which are pointed out on the arch wiki, but the work required isn’t easy.
If you are using Adobe software you might need more power so you can run Windows in a VM, or has up-gradable storage so you can comfortably dual boot.
Good Battery is an cross x86 issue. While Intel and AMD are now trying to compete with Apple Silicon in terms of power and battery life. Stand by battery drain is still an issue. Google “Windows Modern Standby” if you want to get informed. If I remember correctly the laptop needs to have S3 Sleep enabled on it, and it’s usually not specified on a spec sheet.
Another battery saving tool is a CPU limiter like Slimbook Battery. My Laptop has a terrible fan curve and I need to throttle the CPU back, else the machine overheats. But it’s also good for the battery life too.
Software support is down to the Package Manager. Flatpak is your friend for most of this, but if you wanna dive into the deep end, so is the AUR if you installed Arch.
USB-C Charging is down to the laptop manufacturer. Here is a good infographic on the ones you need to look for. Intel Laptops are a safe bet.
Dell XPS or Latitude or Precision, ThinkPad P or X, Framework, LG Gram, System76 and other linux-focused manufacturers, Asus Vivobook
Does it have to be a laptop? You’ll get better hardware and performance on a desktop plus a better screen and seating position.
True, but the focus on battery life suggests mobility is a must.
They could dock the laptop for a desktop experience at home, including a dedicated keyboard, mouse and screens, with a good desk and seating arrangement. A USB C equipped device would be the way to go for this.
But absolutely agree for price, desktop only is better value.
It as to be a laptop. I’m mostly in my new activity, working outside my home. I’m using mostly trains as we can go everywhere with them. It also allows working while going somewhere.
Ok. From what I’ve seen over the years in the Linux community, ThinkPad laptops seem to be the most popular. I think they have the best support for hardware, and ideally, battery usage. I would like at those before you look at Dell, HP etc.
If you have any budget for something like System 76, Tuxedo or one of the other specialist Linux laptops, definitely consider that because you will have zero hardware issues and if you need support you’ll get it.
Whereas if you buy a generic laptop and need support, the only help is the community and Google search…
if you want really really good battery life, a good laptop for that seems to be the T480 (8th gen intel).
It’s relatively cheap used and if you get the 24wh internal and 72wh external batteries you can get 96wh in total
I highly recommend checking out https://old.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals/ daily until you find something that meets your needs and budget.
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