• JoeKrogan@lemmy.world
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    No if I have to keep fixing it , it is not worth my time.

    I installed owncloud years ago and came to the same conclusion and just got rid of it. I use syncthing nowadays though its not the same thing.

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      Yep, I’ve adapted all of my setup to syncthing, and never looked back.

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        Any guidance on this? I looked into Synthing at one time to backup Android phones and got overwhelmed very quickly. I’d love to use it in a similar fashion to NextCloud for syncing between various computers too.

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          Well, it works in a different way than NextCloud. You don’t have a server, instead you just make a share between your computers and they are all peers.

          It takes some getting used to the idea, but it’s actually much simpler than NextCloud.

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            So if I wanted to sync photos from my phone to the computer, then delete the local copies on my phone to save space, that would not work?

            E: But keep the copies on the computer, of course

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          It really wasn’t all that complicated for me. Install the client on two devices set a share up on one device go to the other device Hit add device put the share ID in. Go back to the first devices admin and say allow the share

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          I was very intimidated as well, I’ll try to simplify it, but as always check the documentation ;)

          This is the process I used to sync between my Windows PC and Android phone to sync retroarch saves (works well, would recommend, Pokemon is awesome) I’ve never done it on a Linux, though i assume it’s not too different

          https://docs.syncthing.net/intro/getting-started.html

          I downloaded the Synctrazor program so that it would run in the tray, again I’m not sure what the equivalent/if this would be necessary on Linux.

          No shade to the writers, but the documentation isn’t super noob friendly, as I figured out. I’d recommend trying to cut out all the fluff, and boil it down to bare essentials. Download the program (whichever one seems right for your device, there’s an app for Android) and follow the process for syncing stuff (I believe I used a video guide, but it’s not actually as complicated as it seems)

          If you need specific help I’d be happy to answer questions, though I only understand a certain amount myself XD

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      I’m absolutely at that point with Nextcloud. I kind of didn’t want to go the syncthing route, but I’ll probably give it a shot anyway since none of the NC alternatives seem any better.

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        I tried nc it for a while I would have taken me till the end of days to import all of my files.

        I suspect I could keep it running by doing lockstep backups and updates. But it was just so incredibly slow.

        I just want something that would give me remote access to my files with meta information about my files and a good search index.

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      i have been running the new owncloud (ocis) and, with some quirks and very basic functionality, it’s been running for 2+ years and survived multiple updates without major complications

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    I dunno what you guys are doing that makes your nextcloud die without touching it. Mine runs happily until I decide to update it, and that usually goes fine, too. I don’t use docker for it, tho.

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      It’s the containerization causing this imo. I also host nextcloud on bare metal and it’s quite stable

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        I’ve been reading nextcloud forums/reddit/lemmy/etc. for years now, and i feel like 90% of the problems are from people using docker or whatever easy one-click solution is out there

        I’ve been running NC the old fashioned way for years now and i’ve never had problems of NC dying for no reason.

        Have i had issues? Of course… Not not like the ones people keep coming here and shitting on NC

        The only times i’ve had major issues and it was actually a problem with nextcloud, is buggy major version releases… So i never install a new major release until X.0.1 these days. Havent really had problems since

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    None. I don’t make a habit of keeping “misbehaving” apps around. If I can’t get to the bottom of a specific issue that app is getting the boot from my stable.

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    This has been a serious concern of mine. In the event that I prematurely die I have everything set up with automatic updates, so that hopefully my family can continue to use the self-hosted services without me.

    Nextcloud will not stop shitting the bed. I’d give it a few months at most if I died, at which point my family would likely turn back to Google Drive.

    I’m looking for a more reliable alternative, even if it’s not as feature-rich.

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      If you’re ok with just file storage sftpgo has been solid for me for years now. Does sftp ftp and WebDAV (like nextcloud). Webui isn’t as pretty but it’s fast. Mobile apps will be various sync apps with sftp or WebDAV support. On Android folder sync pro is pretty good for keeping documents and pictures backed up

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      The way that they do updates doesn’t make automated updates very easy. There are usually a few little nagging things that have to be done or changed and they don’t always seem to be the same. I just update manually and make sure I’ve got a good backup of all my family’s files.

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    When I first deployed Nextcloud, it was just like this. Random crashes, lockups, weird user signin issues, slow and clunky.

    But one day it just started working and was super stable. I didn’t do anything, still not sure what fixed it lol.

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    This is ultimately why I ditched Nextcloud. I had it set up, as recommended, docker, mariadb, yadda yadda. And I swear, if I farted near the server Nextcloud would shit the bed.

    I know some people have a rock solid experience, and that’s great, but as with everything, ymmv. For me Nextcloud is not worth the effort.

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    The problem child for me right now is a game built in node.js that I’m trying to host/fix. It’s lagging at random with very little reason, crashing in new and interesting ways every day, and resisting almost all attempts at instrumentation & debugging. To the point most things in DevTools just lock it up full stop. And it’s not compatible with most APMs because most of the traffic occurs over websockets. (I had Datadog working, but all it was saying was most of the CPU time is being spent on garbage collection at the time things go wonky–couldn’t get it narrowed down, and I’ve tried many different GC settings that ultimately didn’t help)

    I haven’t had any major problems with Nextcloud lately, despite the fragile way in which I’ve installed it at work (Nextcloud and MariaDB both in Kubernetes). It occasionally gets stuck in maintenance mode after an update, because I’m not giving it enough time to run the update and it restarts the container and I haven’t given enough thought to what it’d take to increase that time. That’s about it. Early on I did have a little trouble maintaining it because of some problems with the storage, or the database container deciding to start over and wipe the volume, but nothing my backups couldn’t handle.

    I have a hell of a time getting the email to stay working, but that’s not necessarily a Nextcloud problem, that’s a Microsoft being weird about email problem (according to them it is time to let go of ancient apps that cannot handle oauth2–Nextcloud emailer doesn’t support this, same with several other applications we’re running, so we have to do some weird email proxy stuff)

    I am not surprised to hear some of the stories in this thread, though. Nextcloud’s doing a lot of stuff. Lots of failure points.

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    Always works great for me.

    I just run it (behind haproxy on a separate public host) in docker compose w/ a redis container and a hosted postgres instance.

    Automatically upgrade minor versions daily by pulling new images. Manually upgrade major versions by updating the compose file.

    Literally never had a problem in 4 years.

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      I’m still too container stupid to understand the right way to do this. I’m running it in docker under kubernetes and sometimes I don’t update nextcloud for a long time then I do a container update and it’s all fucked because of incompatible php versions of some shit.

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        I don’t remember much about how to use kubernetes but if you can specify a tag like nextcloud:28 instead of nextcloud:latest you should have a safer time with upgrades. Then make sure you always upgrade all the way before moving to a newer major version, this is crucial.

        There are varying degrees of version specificity available: https://hub.docker.com/_/nextcloud/tags

        Make sure you’re periodically evaluating your site with https://scan.nextcloud.com/ and following all of the recommended best practices.

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        Kubernetetes is crazy complex when comparing to docker-compose. It is built to solve scaling problems us self-hosters don’t have.

        First learn a few docker commands, set some environment variables, mount some volumes, publish a port. Then learn docker-compose.

        Tutorials are plenty, if those from docker.com still exist they’re likely still sufficient.

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    Same with my arch install, didn’t touched it for 2 months even though laptop was turned off it decided to die when i launched it and run pacman -syu

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    For years, I had an unstable unraid server. I was fixing it every couple of days after a lockup. I had decided that unraid sucked. When it was up for a week I celebrated. Every one of my dockers was a suspect. I learned to hate all of them.

    Then I shitcanned the next cloud docker.

    Been up for months without a hiccup.

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    Well… no… I have been self hosting it for several years over multiple major versions now. Only for Files, Calendar and Deck though. It was a bit hard to set up, but reading the general Apache and PHP documentation helped a lot.

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    The only device running Snap in my house is a Raspberry Pi running the Snap Nextcloud and it’s rock solid.

    This might be a deployment issue. How are most people running it?

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      I use docker and I get issues sometimes. I will admit though, when I used the snap a few years back I had no issues whatsoever.

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    The new Linuxserver.io docker image at the very least has solved the annoying update cycle NextCloud has and seems to have fixed the need to do that every few months. I haven’t ever had it die but I don’t push it hard and I keep the plugins to a minimum because I just don’t trust it and it doesn’t run all that well.

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    Installed Nextcloud-AIO using the docker script, took about 4 - 5 terminal commands. Practically zero issues! Hopefully someone else can provide some help in the thread!