• utopianfiat@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Unfortunately we proved just before the midterms that there’s a very linear inverse correlation between gas prices and perceived job performance. Refilling the strategic petroleum reserve is electorally smart. Until activists can detach these electoral relaities nothing will change for anyone.

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      That’s still a bad reason to increase the speed at which we’re killing ourselves.

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        It’s a great reason until there’s an alternative. As long as voters look to gas prices for their votes, taking action that raises them is politically toxic.

        Meanwhile leftists are literally criticizing the Biden administration for high gas prices’ impact on the working class.

        You want to change it? Let’s change it. Starting with activists.

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          Meanwhile leftists are literally criticizing the Biden administration for high gas prices’ impact on the working class.

          Which leftists are these? I’ve yet to run into them.

          You want to change it? Let’s change it. Starting with activists.

          I still haven’t been able to decipher what kinds of activists you’re alluding to.

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            that’s not an answer. sure go ahead and kill oil production, make gas prices high and give trump the presidency again. see how that works out for the environment.

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              I mean. It’s the only answer. You cant see the dominos start to fall like they have this year and decide “let’s pump more oil and maybe some Conservatives will vote for me over trump”. It’s too late and it was too late 10 years ago. This isn’t just a US problem. This is global societal breakdown in the next 10 - 20 years.

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                You cant see the dominos start to fall like they have this year and decide “let’s pump more oil and maybe some Conservatives will vote for me over trump”.

                of course you can. the demand for oil/gas will be there regardless, people aren’t all going to stop driving ICE cars just because Biden cut all US oil production. it’s political suicide, not just for Biden but for US environmental policy in general.

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          Cmon guys you’re both pretty, lets accept that were doomed and vote Big Asteroid 2024

          Really though vote now for the chance to vote again, not that it fucking matters because we’re 40 years late to taking any corrective action, but I’d like to vote again

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          So business as usual. We were doomed 20 years ago, when we could have had a fighting chance.

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            not exactly business as usual. Biden is doing more than most presidents have. Not enough, but also not nothing. But the fact is not enough will ever be done until public opinion drastically changes.

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              Biden signed off on a record number of new oil projects, it’s not business as usual, it’s business is accelerating as usual. Environment be dammed

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                there’s more to the topic than oil which is a necessary evil for the time being. or would you rather be beholden to OPEC and the Middle East?

                but sure, let’s go ahead and ignore everything else.

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      Weird how the only viable electoral strategy is indistinguishable from the status quo of making the rich richer at the expense of the poor.

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      Until activists can detach these electoral relaities

      Which form of jargon is this and what does it mean in English? Is this polisci-speak of some sort? Who is an “activist” in this context, and what would they be detaching from what, and how?

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        clearly they mean environmental activists. and the “detachment” is accepting that low gas prices is key to getting elected over a republican who would be even worse than Biden for the environment.