An argument over Christmas gifts turned deadly in Florida after a 14-year-old boy allegedly fatally shot his older sister.

A 14-year-old boy allegedly fatally shot his older sister in Florida after a family argument over Christmas presents, officials said Tuesday.

The teen had been out shopping on Christmas Eve with Abrielle Baldwin, his 23-year-old sister, as well as his mother, 15-year-old brother and sister’s children, Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said during a news conference.

The teenage brothers got into an argument about who was getting more Christmas presents.

“They had this family spat about who was getting what and what money was being spent on who, and they were having this big thing going on in this store,” Gualtieri said.

  • testfactor@lemmy.world
    623·
    1 year ago

    I mean, probably true, but misleading? You’re definitely way more likely to get shot in pretty much any major US city, almost all of which are blue.

    Not making any value judgement of one vs another. Just saying that this particular issue is pretty ubiquitous. Definitely not just a “red state” thing.

    • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world
      201·
      1 year ago

      https://www.axios.com/2023/10/16/america-gun-deaths-crime-south

      It’s actually both a huge and growing issue in red states specifically. Plus the guns people are using in crimes in states with more restrictive gun laws are coming from the states with less restrictive gun laws.

      Basically, the more people who have guns, the more likely those people are to use those guns. Go figure.

      Those figures are per capita however. So while there are more gun deaths in California, you are significantly more likely to be killed in New Mexico to gun violence.

        • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 year ago

          If you read it, you’ll actually notice there’s a specifically different flavor of gun violence in both urban and sub urban areas in states with more restrictive gun laws (generally but not always blue states) and states with less restrictive gun laws (generally but not always red states).

          The casual gun violence in red states is also very high, road rage, bars, in addition to areas where the crime is already high, like areas with gang violence. The amount of people dying per capita is higher in red states.

          • SupraMario@lemmy.world
            11·
            1 year ago

            When you add in the gang violence from blue cities…yes it is. Just like NYC carries all the violence of NY state, even thou NY state is pretty damn redneck.

            • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world
              1·
              1 year ago

              You’re not wrong, just maybe purposefully missing the point? Actually, the majority of gun violence is suicides, have to be careful looking at the data to separate violent crime and suicide. But yeah I would agree with you except almost every other City is experiencing drops in crime and gun violence rates, even New York! Places like Florida have 20% increases in violent crime year over year in their largest cities.

              https://time.com/6294021/ron-desantis-crime-florida-data/

              You see Orlando catching up with Chicago there, that’s wild! So yeah, a lot of that violent crime is gang activity, but gangs use guns more in “blue cities” in “red states” then their “blue state” counterparts. Data is old though and Florida is currently attempting to go through a data collection sea change to match FBI recommendations.

              *Need to note, the pandemic crime levels went absolutely insane everywhere, and just about the entire country saw general crime rate increases in the 30-50% range, this is specifically a discussion of gun violence.