My pro move is too change halfway in the same clip so at some point the orientation is just wrong no matter what you do. I also do diagonal shots.
I’m not allowed to film anymore.
Legitimately I do think being kind of, orientation agnostic, seems like a decent idea. I’ve seen it done well before in things like webtoons, where the sort of “line of action”, as it were, can benefit from bouncing from one side of the screen to the other, and where a variety of composition techniques can make a shot look more interesting and be properly readable in either viewing orientation. I think a conflict kind of naturally comes about when you’re just wanting to shoot everything to be completely in line with the floor so it’s easily parsed by the viewer, which is understandable, but kind of limits how interesting and efficient you can make your shots.
Also, somebody needs to make some popsockets that actually work, so holding your phone horizontally for more than five minutes doesn’t suck garbage doo doo.
I unironically wish that modern videos could change FPS, aspect ratio, and resolution on the fly. There’s way too many cases where having a 16:9 section of a video followed by a cinematic section is useful, and black bars are an awful way of transitioning between the two. Same can be said for vertical and horizontal ratios in the same video.
we might get there with AI and maybe some auto-editing recutting software at some point (or just with fancuts, if IP law ever gets better), where the aspect ratio can be redone for a specific cut of the film, but I don’t think it’s ever gonna get to the point where you’d be better off watching something on a 16:9 monitor if it was meant for 4:3, unless you’re really dead set on redoing all the shot composition so everything isn’t confined endlessly to the center of the screen.
realistically our best bet would’ve been to just film everything in the same aspect ratio, which I thought would be the case after we all collectively decided to fuck ourselves, and very slowly migrate from 4:3 and your other postage stamp aspect ratios, to 16:9, over the course of like 50 years and over the course of different mediums. but apparently we can’t have that, and we just have to get increasingly longer and longer aspect ratios because phone manufacturers suck. it’s been like a century and change since we started filming stuff and everyone still just treats it like pictures on a camera, where it’s all up to uncompromising artistic integrity.
hate that shit.
The thing is each aspect ratio has its merits for productivity, so 16:9 can’t be an end-all be-all.
Also, what I’m talking about is different from what you’re talking about. If source footage was shot in 2 aspect ratios, and both are used in a YouTube video or movie, it should be possible to label video segments with their correct aspect ratio. Right now, a single video can only have 1 aspect ratio, so if a video was formatted for 21:9 with some source footage being 16:9, if you were to watch that video on a 16:9 monitor, you’d see black bars on the top, bottom, left, and right of your screen despite the video segment being 16:9. If you watch WandaVision on a 16:9 or 4:3 monitor, you’ll understand what I mean.
So would you want to stop watching a video on one monitor, and then pick up where you left off on a different monitor with a different aspect ratio? That seems like a lot of hoopla to me, a lot of rigamarole. I do agree though, that should be a function.
Not necessarily. I am saying that instead of a video being 16:9 while containing a 16:10 clip, the video should be 16:9 for most of it and 16:10 for the segment with the clip. There would be fewer black bars during playback because the computer would interpret different frames of video as being in different aspect ratios.
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I think it depends on your intended audience. If what you’re filming is meant to be viewed on a phone, then vertical makes sense. If the video is meant to be viewed on a TV, movie screen, or computer monitor, then rotate your phone.
I was mocking too, but things changed when a phone became the device to play back videos. At this point the orientation didn’t matter as much.
It got to the point that some services, like YouTube shorts pretty much mandate vertical orientation.
Cursing those services to never be seen on desktop devices because they look so wasteful of screen real state.
I actually prefer them to landscape because like a growing amount of people I only watch YouTube on the right side of my screen and use the left for work, drawing, or if course internet browsing and chat windows.
This is why 4:3 should become the default aspect ratio for taking videos on phone.
No, I will not be taking questions at this moment.
1:1
Vertical or horizontal?
/s
Galaxy Fold camera has this as the default dimensions. (The screen is also 4:3)
Note to self: “2 Fast 2 Barbie”(working title) should now be filmed vertically in order to appeal to Gen Z on Tik Tok.
Ah yes, nothing like seeing a 16:9 picture pan-and-scanned on a portrait display.
It’s not a generational thing; it’s a filming standard.
It’s a problem
Not really for very short video because 99% of the time you’ll be watching it on your phone which is vertical by default. For long video horizontal is better.
No, 99% of the time I’ll be looking at it on the computer and my monitor is in the natural Landscape orientation
We used to and we still do too.
Vertical was foretold long ago
Which movie is it?
Looks like 2001
Film is way too grainy, had to be filmed sometime earlier. Maybe '65-70? We may never know.
Shouldn’t you be filming for the device?
Like tiltok should be vertical and yt should be horizontal?
I’d say you should be filming for the content.
Someone on a pogo stick in the backyard? Vertically.
Your pet running around in the backyard? Probably horizontally.
Your friend planking in the backyard?Definitely horizontally.Not at all, get new friends.As an artist this is how I’ve always thought about it. Shooting a group of five people vertical is suboptimal. There’s too much wasted frame.
Until Vine and later tiktok, basically the whole Internet was in the horizontal format and vertical videos would play with huge black boxes on the left and right and in turn you can’t really make out the details of the videos as well because they were so small on those screens. Today’s internet is very different and has things actually designed for vertical videos so complaining about it makes no sense anymore.
Today’s internet is very different and has things actually designed for vertical videos so complaining about it makes no sense anymore.
It absolutely makes sense. You can design whatever you want for vertical videos but it makes no difference if the actual content isn’t designed for it.
How many times have you seen videos with multiple people falling out of frame while simultaneously half the frame consists of ground and sky? Then the camera operator viciously whips back and forth to try to capture everything, creating a jarring fuckin video? How many times do you see TikTokkers trying to contort their bodies so you can actually see what’s going on in the image behind them? What difference does the size of resolution of the image make when half of it is consumed by nothing important?
It’s often hard to adapt already existing horizontal videos into vertical videos, but the current high prevalence of vertical video platforms create incentive to create better editing tricks. I personally am often surprised how they accommodate for these situations now a days
I mean yes I agree but it’s a shoddy workaround for a manufactured problem.
You should be filming for your subject and media devices should be built around common filming aspect ratios. A phone camera’s aspect ratio should be practical for capturing typical content, a phone screen’s aspect ratio should mirror phone cameras, I think this is already approximately the case. Phones are somewhat unique compared to say a TV because they can easily be viewed vertical and horizontal, so really they have two aspect ratios.
I think the vertical photo and video phenomenon is more a symptom of how we use our devices. People are rapid fire swiping through media which means the majority aspect ratio is going to push the minority one out, which is why landscape is dead. Another reason I believe is people switching between apps, Tiktoking at the same time they use other social media for example, and often those apps are way more practical in portrait.
…and I hate it
So people on lemmy are pretty fuckin old eh? Interesting…
The medium is the message and all that.
I never stopped, it´s still stupid to film vertically in most cases.
Oh god, please no.
I am a social media content creator sometimes for work…
But human eyes are on the vertical plane…
I feel so conflicted sometimes.
