Blog post from LXC’s project lead

  • TCB13@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I just see a problem here:

    I perfectly understand, approve and back this move, however I’ve a question about the current state of things and specifically Debian 12 users. Debian includes LXD LTS 5.0.2 on their repositories and that version will be still be around after 2024/05 and trying to use the image server. Debian won’t likely change stable to include Incus until 2025, what’s the suggested path here?

    https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org/t/important-notice-for-lxd-users-image-server/18479/9

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      Of all the reasons you could have chosen for Red Hat you chose “they killed a dead corpse”?

      X11 was already dead, it isn’t getting updated, and its maintenance is gonna end eventually. Sure Wayland still has issues but once it’s ready for widespread use (which it is, save maybe for gaming on PCs with like 6GBs of RAM) the jump is unavoidable. In fact by doing this they got more people to work on fixing the issues in Wayland

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      Red Hat kills X11

      So does Valve. Valve and Red Hat are the driving forces behind the recent HDR advancements.

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        Yes, but I can still play steam, any Valve game and atm any Linux steam game on X11.

        I don’t hate Wayland as a project, I just don’t like Wayland as it current state. Give me better stability, better support with multiple monitors and a compositor with more customization, and I’ll be happy.

        But, in my opinion, Wayland is by design opinionated. Some ideas are good, such as the security model, some are both good and bad, such as the Compositor VS Server+WM debate (both good systems in my opinion), some are just bad (no unified screen management option; obviously there are LOTS of protocol extension, but not all are supporting everywhere)

        So, imo, WayLand just needs a stable, (really) customizable Compositor with all useful extensions and designed to put other components together; I’m still on my X11+awesomewm+rofi+polybar, and I want a customizable, stable and module approach on Wayland.

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          Yes, but I can still play steam, any Valve game and atm any Linux steam game on X11.

          I’m not aware of any move by Red Hat or anyone else to remove X11 support from GTK, Qt, etc.

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        Yes, but I can still play steam, any Valve game and atm any Linux steam game on X11.

        I don’t hate Wayland as a project, I just don’t like Wayland as it current state. Give me better stability, better support with multiple monitors and a compositor with more customization, and I’ll be happy.

        But, in my opinion, Wayland is by design opinionated. Some ideas are good, such as the security model, some are both good and bad, such as the Compositor VS Server+WM debate (both good systems in my opinion), some are just bad (no unified screen management option; obviously there are LOTS of protocol extension, but not all are supporting everywhere)

        So, imo, WayLand just needs a stable, (really) customizable Compositor with all useful extensions and designed to put other components together; I’m still on my X11+awesomewm+rofi+polybar, and I want a customizable, stable and module approach on Wayland.

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        I hate Red Hat as much as anyone

        You’re aware they’re still the biggest FOSS contributor out there, right? Their only bad move is the CentOS situation.