• Garbanzo@lemmy.world
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    There must have been a tragic and bizarre set of circumstances to lead to this. The IDF has assured us that they’re taking great measures to avoid civilian casualties, and their actions are fully legal and justified. Those hostages must have escaped and taken up arms and attacked the Israeli soldiers by mistake, because otherwise they couldn’t possibly have been mistaken for combatants. I’m just flabbergasted, no one could have foreseen something like this happening. It’s really shocking.

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    Israel’s global narrative be like:

    ✅ Collateral damage:

    - most hospitals non-functional

    - 18,000+ dead

    - bakeries can’t make food

    - infants dead in incubators

    - patients forced to “evacuate” under gunfire

    - dying of preventable diseases

    - 10k people missing/dead and still under rubble

    - hundreds held and stripped, others detained in an “unknown location”

    - journalists, UN workers, doctors dead while on duty or while sheltering with their families


    😥 Tragedy:

    - 3 Israeli hostages killed “by mistake” despite having civilian clothes on and being unarmed


    Disclaimer: yes, of course, it’s a tragedy, but also proof that the IDF targets anything that moves.

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    An initial IDF probe into the hostage killing incident suggests all three men were shirtless, with one carrying a makeshift white flag.

    On seeing them, one Israeli soldier shouted “terrorists!” to the other forces, initiating fire at the men, according to reports.

    While two hostages were hit immediately and fell to the ground, the third managed to escape into a nearby building where despite pleas in Hebrew, he was also shot and killed, a military official said.

    So what happened we do our outmost to protect civilian lives? Because believing that this is the first time something like this to happen in Gaza is rather naïve.

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    Basically they killed them because they shot at any civilians.

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    It happens. I guess it’s good they admitted it instead of just saying Hamas killed them? If only in the thousands of years humans have been alive we could found a way to resolve conflict without killing.

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      It reveals their character. Kill a few hostages by mistake? That’s a tragedy. Kill two civilians in Gaza per Hamas fighter? Regrettable, but “tremendously positive.”

      Hamas, the Israeli government, and the IDF are three sides of the same die: murderers with no respect for their fellow human.

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    • IDF shot unarmed civilians waving white flag
    • target was unarmed and not returning fire yet IDF killed just 2 of 3 at first try
    • IDF was scared
    • IDF didn’t follow orders

    Great army /s

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      Or they DID follow orders…

      It’s just they turned out to be hostages instead of random palestinian civilians…

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        Yeah, this trumps all the recent intense propaganda about the IDF being professional and meticulous.

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      Previously another 3 hostages were “found dead” and I’m now really wondering if they killed those too

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    Biden can you support Isreal to defend itself against the IDF by not giving them anymore money or guns…

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    We should be furious with Hamas for using them as shields. Though again, Hamas has majority support amongst residents in Gaza, so…

    Fighting in dense urban conditions like this, 18k is definitely an attempt to minimize civilian casualties. If they were intentionally causing them, they wouldn’t go in at all. They’d just kill magnitudes more (hundreds of thousands or millions) without risking soldiers. They easily have the firepower to do it.

    We should all condemn their elected terrorists for forcing the theater to be amongst civilians. It’s a war crime, co-location strip protections, and legitimized targeting places that would otherwise be protected by international law.

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      Ohhhh, furious with Hamas or with the IDF, who killed 3 shirtless people waving a white flag? Are you living in a parallel reality or are you so brainwashed?

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        In an environment where that’s the standard tactic of Hamas, hide behind civilians, yeah, I understand the friendly fire. This is Hamas. They blew up their own hospital, hoping ppl like worldnews would blame Israel for it… and they did.

        If you think that while hiding amongst civilians or while keeping hostages they aren’t trained to try and appear like innocents, then I don’t know how to help you. It’s literally their main tactic.

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            I too would resort to name calling with a factually bankrupt argument and poor reasoning skills. Well done!

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              Poor reasoning skills? Sorry but even IDF admitted their fuck-up and said that it was against their rules of disengagement, while you still pretend that they did nothing wrong. So who’s morally bankrupt here? You who is refusing to admit the wrongdoings of your own people even when presented with clear undisputed facts or me?

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                They admit wrongdoing because they’re not intentionally targeting civilians.

                To support your false narrative/pro-hamas propaganda, you’re attempting to conflate an accident during wartime as intentionally targeting civilians. It’s really not okay, and I am concerned for you.

                You don’t know who “my people” are, but I see the attempt to start framing more personal attacks, and intent to libel further, and I get that you’ve embarrassed yourself multiple times and shown your true colors. You have my pity.

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                  Ah yes, defending basic human rights is called nowadays pro-Hamas, thanks for enlightening me.

                  You should see how many people agree with your statements and how many with mine and perhaps you should start questioning your position.