1. Meta/Facebook has a horrific track record on human rights:
- https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ethiopia-facebook-algorithms-contributed-human-rights-abuses-against-tigrayans
- https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence
- https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587080/mark-zuckerberg-holocaust-denial-kara-swisher-interview
2. Meta/Facebook is trying to join the Fediverse. We need to defederate them.
3. If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net" (here's how on Mastodon https://fedi.tips/how-to-defederate-fediblock-a-server-on-mastodon/)
4. If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net". Your admin is listed on your server website's About page.
Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.
If you’re a server admin, please defederate Meta’s domain “threads.net”
If you don’t run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate “threads.net”.
Yeah, and it will end up with huge echochambers full of xenophobes scared of everything and defederating everyone. Defederation is the last step, not the first. Here, paranoia over what might happen years later down a very slippery slope makes people throw away the opportunity to actually grow the platform instead of leaving it with barely any people at all.
I went back and read it three times because I thought I was going crazy, it does say that - in charity you can say that he’s not saying it’s a xenophobic action but an action taken by xenophobes people, trivial distinction though.
Also though I will go a step further and say it is xenophobic because xeno is like in xenomorph, the alien wasn’t from a different country the word means from a different origin so fits perfectly apt to describe the situation as it’s the origin of their accounts. Though of course it’s common usage does normally imply nationality.
A xenophobe is scared “of the others”. Usually this means people from another country. But right here, it means the countless users that can’t accept other people, simply because they are from another platform. Or better yet, thinking that those users are somehow inferrior because they come from that platform. And better yet, right now the proposition is to “block them all” for no reason whatsoever other than “we are scared of ‘them’”
I don’t get why they want to defederate without any experience of it either. Let’s see what Meta brings to the table. Maybe they’ll shine a light on the Fediverse and we get a more varied group of people on the platform.
Anyone wondering it’s a long winded article blaming meta for a genocide, personally I don’t really see how it fits the conversation beyond ‘zuck bad’ because it’s nothing that’s going to happen here
Yeah, and it will end up with huge echochambers full of xenophobes scared of everything and defederating everyone. Defederation is the last step, not the first. Here, paranoia over what might happen years later down a very slippery slope makes people throw away the opportunity to actually grow the platform instead of leaving it with barely any people at all.
baby its not xenophobic to defederate, calm down
No one said such a thing. Where did you get it from?
Go join a monolithic network if you are not interested in the features of the fediverse.
You have yet to show where your statement came from
They literally quoted that statement. Your lack of reading comprehension sounds like a you problem.
Read the original comment again. They didn’t state what this person is claiming at all.
And yet I’m the one who can’t read…
I went back and read it three times because I thought I was going crazy, it does say that - in charity you can say that he’s not saying it’s a xenophobic action but an action taken by xenophobes people, trivial distinction though.
Also though I will go a step further and say it is xenophobic because xeno is like in xenomorph, the alien wasn’t from a different country the word means from a different origin so fits perfectly apt to describe the situation as it’s the origin of their accounts. Though of course it’s common usage does normally imply nationality.
A xenophobe is scared “of the others”. Usually this means people from another country. But right here, it means the countless users that can’t accept other people, simply because they are from another platform. Or better yet, thinking that those users are somehow inferrior because they come from that platform. And better yet, right now the proposition is to “block them all” for no reason whatsoever other than “we are scared of ‘them’”
I don’t get why they want to defederate without any experience of it either. Let’s see what Meta brings to the table. Maybe they’ll shine a light on the Fediverse and we get a more varied group of people on the platform.
What Meta has brought to the table in the past. "Maybe we should give them a
secondthirdfourthumpteenth chance!Anyone wondering it’s a long winded article blaming meta for a genocide, personally I don’t really see how it fits the conversation beyond ‘zuck bad’ because it’s nothing that’s going to happen here
It is an illustration (and a particularly powerful one) of just where Meta’s ethics lie.
You don’t invite serial killers to your Halloween party. You don’t invite Meta to your online community. Same reason in both cases.