• cynar@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    This always bugs me. Quantum Mechanics isn’t actually that difficult. It has some nasty maths, yes, but that’s mostly slog work, rather than an impossibility. 90% of it is the Schroedinger’s equation + boundary conditions.

    The main issue is that you have to abandon the particle model of reality. This is deeply engrained into our brains. If you try and understand it as “Particles + extras”, you will fail. You have to think of it as “Waves + extras”. It then, suddenly makes logical sense.

    It does have some interesting implications, however, about deeper reality however. E.g. what exactly IS decoherence, from a physical point of view. Also, what is physically happening, dimensionally, when a wave is complex, or even pure imaginary. These are beyond the scope of QM however.

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      1 year ago

      The big problem isn’t that the math is hard, or that’s often impossible to visualise. The problem is that a whole bunch of charlatans intentionally misinterpret what “observing” is in QM, to make money off of gullible victims.

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      The problem of quantum mechanic is that the physics it shows us is not intuitive, and it sometimes breaks other laws of physics.

      Quantum intrication means that information travels faster than light for example. Counterfactuality also breaks causality.

      It’s not the maths that are the problem, it’s that it doesn’t make physical sense in the world we currently understand. And the equations explain nothing. They merely describe a a world that doesn’t make sense.

      Quantum mechanic is like having a machine from the future that does cool things, but you don’t understand how it works. It’s like people did chemistry before they understand what chemistry was. We do uber cool things with it, but it is a spotlight on our ignorance at the same time.

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        1 year ago

        I definitely agree it’s unintuitive to the layman. We never have to deal with large scale wave interactions, on the classical physics level. I disagree, however, that we can’t understand it. It does make sense, it just doesn’t map to our default particle mindset.

        I disagree that it breaks the laws of physics though. It just shows some flaws in our methodology. E.g. the speed of light isn’t a limit on fundamental speed, but of information. It just happens that the only time we can have transmission without information is via decoherence.

        QM is definitely incomplete. We know the what, but not the why. That applies to most of physics however. Newtonian physics is the same. We know what happens, but not why. It’s just that Newtonian physics is intuitive to our savannah running brain, while QM requires more mental work.

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          1 year ago

          So the fact that quantum physics is non-local, and thus is not compatible with general relativity, is perfectly fine for you?

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            1 year ago

            QM is the only bit of physics where something can still be both physical and have zero information content. Therefore it’s the only place where the difference matters between C being a universal Vs a limit for information.

            Also waves are non local, an exponential decay never actually reaches zero. Accepting this is critical to QM making sense. It’s just very alien to our natural sensibilities.

            As for the conflict with GR, both theories are known to be incomplete since neither predict each other. Knowing how both differ is one of the few known holes in physics. Interestingly, both theories are ridiculously accurate, within their domains, making the job all the harder.

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      You have to think of it as “Waves + extras”. It then, suddenly makes logical sense.

      Unless you observe the double slit experiment, and then suddenly it’s particles again