• spez@sh.itjust.works
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    lemmy devs are actually pretty good at not forcing their ideology on others

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        Yeah but they haven’t built in communism… yet.

        I’d be ok though if it were the Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism though.

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      Huh… im not sure about that, it hasnt happenned to me but i heard it happened to others and i bash tankies constantly.

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    1462 points 3 years ago

    reddit will delete this comment cuz they’re controlled by China but fuck the CCP!!!

    same energy

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      The CIA isn’t all that bad. It’s run by raccoons forming a shadow government.

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      The US controls gigantic parts of the information/entertainment space: movies, music, social networks, YouTube, TV, even their politics is a keyfabey circus for the rest of the world. American propaganda is literally everywhere.

      It’s an image of consumption and individualism above even self preservation, so deeply internalized that Americans and perhaps half of the rest of the world don’t notice. Sometimes it feels like the US lost its mind in 9/11 and started hurting itself in confusion but it was never a “smart player” in the world, just a narcissistic bully.

      It’s not necessary for the CIA to be involved because it’s literally superliminal and grotesque at this point in time. The US throws its weight all around the world and is brutish and callous with its “use of force”, which means murdering people (and destroying property, oh they love them some property) in case there’s people in this thread that are lost in so many layers of euphemisms and irony.

      Americans need to deal with this instead of becoming defensive and recurring to whataboutism. Yes, China and Russia are horrible and murderous in their own ways and at a different scale, but one must not use them to avoid self reflection.

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    I got banned from one of the communities for simply saying I thought both socialism and capitalism won’t work without more nuance and blending.

    I always figured the snowflakes were really the far right… But no, it’s both extremes, apparently.

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      If you can’t examine real world examples of your philosophy critically, you’ve no business in the debate. Tankies aren’t willing to hear about the flaws apparent in the system any more than your average thin blue bootlicker will.

      I say this as someone who makes guillotine “jokes.” Definitely jokes.

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      Socialism is just democracy extended into the workplace. Saying pure socialism won’t work is arguing against democracy.

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        I will always argue against pure democracies. People are not invested enough to provide a coherent opinion on 100% of the solutions our societies require for survive and thrive.

        A vote over the use of chemicals for water treatment could easily end in their permanent ban. Hell, with the right malicious intent, someone could easily get dihydrogen monoxide banned from crop fields.

        A pure democracy is how Idiocracy becomes a reality. Now, a mix, such as a republic electing the careful use of democratic socialism… Sure!

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          That isn’t how it works. It’s like if you’re a part of a cooperatively run business, then you get equal say in workplace practices. There isn’t a ‘boss’ dictating the rules to you.

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        Socialism is authoritarian. There’s no democracy in socialism.

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          The definition of socialism is workers owning the means of production. That means democracy in the workplace. Worker’s councils. Equal representation. Majoritarian politics.

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        I honestly had no idea before I came to Lemmy.

        I actually really enjoy a lot of the facets of socialism and communism… Most people would easily mistake my independent political position as “left”, especially since I strongly oppose the current GOP.

        But here in Lemmygrad, I am apparently quite the villain for suggesting some extremist, far-left policies are toxic.

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      The political spectrum is a circle. Extremists might latch on to different BS but personality types of extremists on all ends are essentially the same. Loud hateful aggressive assholes lacking the intelligence to understand nuance.

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        It appears the leftists would like you to stop saying unkind things about them. I guess it’s good we’re not in one of their specific communities, eh?

        Way to prove the meme right, extremists.

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          Perfect example above of not being able to read or understand nuance.

          Yea, that’s more of a self-report on your end if you can’t comprehend nuance and think absolute rejection of classist hierarchy and absolute adherence to classist hierarchy** are the same positions**.

          Extremists might latch on to different BS but personality types of extremists on all ends are essentially the same.

          If you tried actually reading, you would have noticed how I in fact said the exact opposite. I never claimed they were the same, I specifically mentioned they may latch on to different things/positions. What I said instead was that they had the same personality type.

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              No actually I am most definitely correct. You are either just too biased to accept it or can’t separate viewpoints from personality types and behaviours.

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                  There we go, perfect example of extremists making discriminatory statements and unable to engage in discussion. I care about politics plenty, I just don’t subscribe to one dimensional propaganda not supported by data.

                  Protip: attacking everyone who doesn’t share your extremist and hateful views doesn’t really make you look any better or change their mind. But I do get it gives you an outlet to be channel all your hate and blame others when you are just too dumb to understand nuance.

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    I’ve been banned a few times specifically in fuck cars and then comrades I think? Absolutely some of the most fragile groups I know beside trumpets when it comes to accepting reality and facts.

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    Why are the libs so hung up on criticizing socialists? If you don’t like this forum then go back to reddit.

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    one thing amazes me for sure: there is still bunch of people loudly protecting their masters’ right to exploit and rob them.

    And they are doing this while are already living in the world destroyed and robbed by capital, where COVID showed how vulnerable and under-financed our healthcare system is, where due to the global competition and sinking profits of corporations countries are building alliances, and preparing a new big imperialistic war for us, where crisis goes after crisis together with high inflation globally, and where quality of life is sinking monthly.

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    Let’s do a little experiment:

    • Tankies are horrible
    • Nazi’s are horrible
    • The US is horrible
    • Russia is horrible
    • China is horrible
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    I experience the opposite. Whenever I criticise US government, I get attacked by hordes of cringy Americans.

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    Fuck tankies, get money

    fuck tankies, get money

    Fuck tankies, get money

    Fuck tankies, get money

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    It’s amazing the number of tankies and overall left-nuts I’ve found on here. Figures considering the kind of people that frequent FOSS spaces