I don’t watch horror slasher/spatter films because it’s never really interested me, but I found the Weapons trailer intriguing. The way all those kids ran away from their homes in the middle of the night. There was some pretty great cinematography and choreography in this film. I was there mainly the mystery solving and fantastical elements.

Unfortunately, the supernatural element wasn’t explained. It borrowed from familiar witchcraft tropes, but didn’t go anywhere. So many questions. Then it became… gruesome. Exceedingly so. (And yes, I know it was more mild than other films.)

Anyway. I’m just lost. What draws people to these kinds of gruesome films? If it’s something you love, what excites you about it? I feel as though great stories can be told really well without being this explicit. But perhaps great storytelling isn’t what people are looking for in horror films?

Perhaps it is the fear and suspense it brings out of you? Or maybe the squeamishness of not being able to look at the screen at times? Maybe some people look forward to the gore, which adds value the more gruesome it is? 😬

I feel like I am not getting something. I love fantasy. I love stories. I feel like there was a lot of great potential in this film for storytelling, but it never came to fruition and was kind of ruined by focusing on the wrong things. And that’s probably because I don’t understand what makes a good horror film good in the first place?

Thoughts?


Update: Some comments helped me refine what it was that bothers me. I had to look it up and the Wikipedia article helped a lot by breaking horror down into subgenres. It’s “slashers” that I don’t understand, but particularly “splatter” films. When I look at lists, it turns out that I enjoy a lot of “horror” without realizing it’s classified as horror. But gorey, body mutilation… that is the form of horror that I struggle to understand the appeal of.

Weapons employs mutilation at the end and I was wondering why I needed to see this. The filmmakers added it because they wanted me to experience it. They thought it added to their film, but my experience was the opposite. I thought the story was doing great on its own and then… ugh… wtf… who wants to see this? 😅

So this is what I was really asking: For those that enjoy and seek out gorey mutilation, what is it that attracts you to that?

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    When I was 11, I was a very scaredy and timid kid. I was afraid of the dark and the idea of ghosts and demons. One night, I could not sleep; It was a very windy night and the noises of the trees and the shadows projected into my bedroom had me petrified. I was imagining something like a killer or a devil lurking in the shadows; I don’t know why I was so afraid of those particular ideas, maybe the religious ideas of the community where I lived.

    I started thinking of an experiment in my mind. What if I befriended the devil? What if I became Satan’s best pal and instead of cowering in my sheets I would be happy that my friend was paying a visit. That idea evolved into imagining scenarios where the devil defended me from my bullies or protected me from the dangers of the night. I fell asleep.

    I feel all horror is a very similar fantasy to that. Instead of turning away from the things that you are scared of; you embrace them, or try to expose yourself to them with one eye open and one closed. It’s roller coaster-ish; a thrill to Spice up your experience; Like putting hot sauce into your food. Horror media can be a controlled exploration of our evolutionary fear reactions in a controlled environment, but also an exploration of taboos or limit experiences. I also feel that horror is very similar to comedy in the sense that it’s not always about the plot itself, but the visceral emotions and reactions it causes.

    To your example Weapons: It is a movie made by a director who is also a comedian. the whole movie is an extended setup to a punchline that is both horrifying and comedic. The tropes of the story are kind of cliché but I think the novelty comes from the way it successfully weaves the horrifying and the absurd. There is an air of Monty python all across the movie but even the laughs are played with this muted seriousness.

    It’s also a very unpretentious spooky tale. It doesn’t pretend there is a large moral message or a political dilemma. It feels a little retro at how straightforward it is. a “Visceral reactions” movie. I also feel that the fact that it doesn’t need to explain itself helps the overall atmosphere. The movie doesn’t need to wear it’s lore like underwear over it’s pants. It trusts the audience to imagine and feel the blanks. One of my major frustrations with most media today is that writers feel the need to explain everything. They need to tell audience what to think and feel about everything. Character monologues explaining their feelings, exposition dumps about what should be obvious on the screen. I find it refreshing when a piece of media leaves some interesting blanks for me to fill.

    So I guess in conclusion I like horror because when I am afraid or nervous, I like to imagine I am riding a big scary roller coaster with my buddy the devil by my side. thinking like that made me less timid, less afraid. It helped me navigate the complex social situations of college as a young man with ADHD. And it helps me talk to people I initially felt intimidated by as an adult. Because I give myself a chance to experience my own fear and doubt. Or some pop psychology shit like that.

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      I appreciate this. It gave me something to think about. The reactive and emotional element makes sense.

      It also reminded me how much I’ve changed the last several years. I’ve been through… things. And as a result, I experience life very differently now. The things most people are afraid of don’t seem to affect me the same way. There was a time, certainly, but not anymore.

      The only strong emotion I felt in this film was due to the gruesomeness. I’ve seen things. I’ve been in terrible situations. i choose to avert my eyes at parts because it was too real. There are genuine grizzly monsters out there and I wasn’t interested in more.

      Hmm.

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      I can relate to this.

      I liked the dark continuity of horror movies, how characters and themes carried forward in various series, but my favorite that I kept going back to was Nightmare on Elm Street 3: The Dream Warriors.

      The kids fight back, and though they get defeated quickly, they do temporarily defeat Freddy. The idea that they could fight back was fascinating and helpful as a kid.