I’ve been running owncloud, then nextcloud for years. While it worked I was never very happy with it. Performance was always lackluster even for 1-2 users, features added are seemingly superfluous and was never something I wanted or cared about (groupware, AI assistant, talk features – don’t use, need or care). All I want is ... Read more
Hey friends. I finally fired nextcloud - and so should you.
I’m curious about opencloud. It’s flashy, uses go, and has everything that I’m actively using in Nextcloud. The license does make me a little cautious about it though. Apache v2 on the server side is unusually permissive. AGPLv3 on the web ui is cool, but it’s also not really helpful if you’re not required to publish server changes.
The weaker (permissive instead of copyleft) license alone is a reason to be suspicious of both the project and OP. At this point, it’s just telegraphing plans to eventually go proprietary and enshittify.
and I would have gotten away with it if it wasnt for you meddling kids.
NO - but seriously completely gratuitous from my end. I’m fed up with nextcloud.
as to licensing - yeah I didnt even look at it, opencloud was forked from owncloud I figured it is something consistent. I like they use matrix for their chat.
Well, I wouldn’t go that far. Let’s not forget Nextcloud started as a fork for the same reason. The permissive license doesn’t stop us from keeping it alive, but it is something to be cautious of.
Can’t comment on the license, but I switched to it from NextCloud a few months ago and I’ve been generally very happy with it for where it is in the development process. It’s not perfect yet, but it’s also still earlyish.
I’m curious about opencloud. It’s flashy, uses go, and has everything that I’m actively using in Nextcloud. The license does make me a little cautious about it though. Apache v2 on the server side is unusually permissive. AGPLv3 on the web ui is cool, but it’s also not really helpful if you’re not required to publish server changes.
The weaker (permissive instead of copyleft) license alone is a reason to be suspicious of both the project and OP. At this point, it’s just telegraphing plans to eventually go proprietary and enshittify.
and I would have gotten away with it if it wasnt for you meddling kids.
NO - but seriously completely gratuitous from my end. I’m fed up with nextcloud.
as to licensing - yeah I didnt even look at it, opencloud was forked from owncloud I figured it is something consistent. I like they use matrix for their chat.
as to enshittification - that is something nobody can predict but I have seen GPL3 went private many times: https://directus.io/blog/changing-our-license-one-year-later or mongo I think was agpl3.
tbh yes - licensing is not something I looked into strongly.
Well, I wouldn’t go that far. Let’s not forget Nextcloud started as a fork for the same reason. The permissive license doesn’t stop us from keeping it alive, but it is something to be cautious of.
Can’t comment on the license, but I switched to it from NextCloud a few months ago and I’ve been generally very happy with it for where it is in the development process. It’s not perfect yet, but it’s also still earlyish.