The country from which the proud boys originate, Canada, has declared them a terrorist organization. But I guess this is on brand for the USA these days.
Send us your violent, your delusional, your hate filled…
We REALLY need to bring back state mental institutions
Back during my time at the University of Texas at Austin, the Young Conservatives of Texas would host “Immigrant Roundup”. Members would dress in big orange “Illegal Migrant” shirts and students would be encouraged to chase them around campus with butterfly nets.
This was considered perfectly fine and good by university administrators. But the LGBTQ club had to meet off campus, because it was immoral and in violation of state laws forbidding sodomy.
Young Conservative groups at colleges seem to revolve around thinking of ways to get attention and “lolz”
Texas is a shithole state with less freedoms than I have as a Californian.
The women in my life have rights that Texan women don’t.
I can walk down the street right now and buy weed from the weed store. Texans can’t.
Texans are a bunch of cucks that let their legislators shit on them.
Americans are a bunch of cucks that let their legislators shit on them.
Texas is a shithole state with less freedoms than I have as a Californian.
When you’re getting your head caved in by the cops, the LAPD doesn’t feel much freer than the thugs running Austin.
I can walk down the street right now and buy weed from the weed store. Texans can’t.
Most major Texas cities have fully given up on marijuana prosecution as a waste of time and resources. Meanwhile, California’s the state with ICE agents crawling up everyone’s assholes, while your governor does dick all to stop it. Quixotically safer to be undocumented in San Antonio than San Bernadino, simply because your state is on the President’s shit list.
Texans are a bunch of cucks that let their legislators shit on them.
Californias are a bunch of cucks that let their legislators shit on them, then insists the shit doesn’t stink.
Dianne Feinstein was more responsible for the appointment of Amy Comey Barret than Ted Cruz, ffs. Your state is as big of a fascist shithole as anywhere in the country. You just cover yourself in Patchouli and dose yourselves in Kambucha, then pretend you don’t use slave labor to keep your wildfires in check.
SWAT teams should be sent to hunt Proud Boys.
Some of those that work forces
Are the same that burn crosses
And angry mobs should be sent to hunt swat teams
If they are doing their jobs hunting ICE, I’d let them.
I thought that’s what ICE was all about? Am I missing something
ICE is a government agency, so in theory, they still have some accountability. The Proud Boys have none.
I thought ICE was proud boys
Sounds like a profoundly stupid plan that will fail spectacularly and accomplish nothing but wasting tax payer dollars. So on par for Republicans.
I liked the proud boys better when they were a club that didn’t want to jerk off.
If you’re going for it, why only go half way?
The Proud Boys should be renamed “Storm troopers”, and be dressed in brown shirts and knee-high leather boots, whilst immigrants should be mandated by law to wear yellow David Stars in a highly visible place on their chest.
“Storm Troopers” sounds a little ominous don’t you think?
Maybe something innocuous, like “Protection Squadron”
Remember when the MAGA crowd was crying about personal freedoms and wearing yellow stars?
Oh how the turn tables
Fucking asshole.
Cool, but let’s send tigers to hunt the proud boys. The ciiiiircle of liiiiiiife!
Don’t have any tigers, best I can do is furries.
Citizen should be allowed to hunt ice and proud boys for a reward.
As a vet, I’m ready to start hunting fuckers and do are many other vets.
Let us loose you son of a bitch. We are itching to get some.
Agreed. This isn’t what I served to protect.
Don’t wait for permission.
They desperately want lawlessness.
How long until Trump demands TV networks start broadcasting The Running Man live, and that it also be displayed on all video billboards…
Isn’t that already who’s in ICE?
Not exactly.
Two books that are absolutely essential to understanding what’s going on now and what can be done about it: On Tyranny and From Dictatorship to Democracy (edit: Freudian slip…). “On Tyranny” talks about a very specific progression of how fascism undoes the law. I’ll let Snyder explain:
Most governments, most of the time, seek to monopolize violence. If only the
government can legitimately use force, and this use is constrained by law, then the
forms of politics that we take for granted become possible. It is impossible to carry
out democratic elections, try cases at court, design and enforce laws, or indeed
manage any of the other quiet business of government when agencies beyond the
state also have access to violence. For just this reason, people and parties who wish
to undermine democracy and the rule of law create and fund violent organizations
that involve themselves in politics. Such groups can take the form of a paramilitary
wing of a political party, the personal bodyguard of a particular politician—or
apparently spontaneous citizens’ initiatives, which usually turn out to have been
organized by a party or its leader.Armed groups first degrade a political order, and then transform it. Violent
right-wing groups, such as the Iron Guard in interwar Romania or the Arrow Cross
in interwar Hungary, intimidated their rivals. Nazi storm troopers began as a
security detail clearing the halls of Hitler’s opponents during his rallies. As
paramilitaries known as the SA and the SS, they created a climate of fear that
helped the Nazi Party in the parliamentary elections of 1932 and 1933. In Austria
in 1938 it was the local SA that quickly took advantage of the absence of the usual
local authority to loot, beat, and humiliate Jews, thereby changing the rules of
politics and preparing the way for the Nazi takeover of the country. It was the SS
that ran the German concentration camps—lawless zones where ordinary rules did
not apply. During the Second World War, the SS extended the lawlessness it had
pioneered in the camps to whole European countries under German occupation.
The SS began as an organization outside the law, became an organization that
transcended the law, and ended up as an organization that undid the law.For violence to transform not just the atmosphere but also the system, the
emotions of rallies and the ideology of exclusion have to be incorporated into the
training of armed guards. These first challenge the police and military, then
penetrate the police and military, and finally transform the police and military.Trump is a lot weaker than a lot of these “strongmen.” He doesn’t really have a loyal following; the Nazis had thousands of people looking to roam the streets brawling with Communists. Trump has to pay ICE people to do the same, and they have to hide their faces and cosplay as cops and people get to get up and scream in their faces and nothing happens. And, so far, there are little pockets of resistance from local law enforcement to that final intermingling stage, which is pretty unusual for this kind of thing. Definitely having people screaming at them or rescuing their victims and then getting away with it, or getting arrested for “assault” and then the grand juries refusing to indict, is very unusual. On the other hand, nothing’s really stopping it. No cops are actually arresting anyone from ICE, which means this all can continue and escalate.
I would say that Proud Boys roaming around and trying to play the part of the brownshirts would be a great thing, because it would drive the wedge which is slightly inserted between ICE and local law enforcement in a little deeper. Because when ICE and the police really do knit together into a single law enforcement body (which would necessarily be obedient to Trump and not to the law), brother, watch the fuck out.
I would say that Proud Boys roaming around and trying to play the part of the brownshirts would be a great thing,
You had me up to there. It would not be a great thing. A great thing would be to see more of what we got in NYC today. Clog the streets immediately with people that ICE is trying brandish violence and kidnapping.
Trotsky’s definition of revolution: revolution is an open measurement of the strength between social forces in a struggle for power.
We want the numbers. We don’t want them to have more numbers.
Ergo Proud Boys in the streets is bad.
Don’t you want an open measurement of the strength between New Yorkers and Proud Boys?
I mean these two scenarios are not mutually exclusive. If you think bullying a squad of ICE people is easy, wait until it’s a little handful of Proud Boys with absolutely no legal protections getting chased out like Patriot Front in Philly.
It’s complex. There are a bunch of ways it can play out. But I think the Trump forces losing the de-facto legal protections that ICE people have, and losing the pretense of legitimacy that’s so far kept them from getting arrested, would be the perfect tipping point for everyone to just get sick of Trump’s shit and start tackling them and getting away with it as far as the local authorities are concerned.
There are other ways it could play out, it could be bad or real bad also. I’m just saying that Proud Boys coming out and fucking everything up for this whole operation could come in conjunction with bullying the ICE people away through sheer numbers.
Antifa should be sent to hunt GOP candidates 😆
Antifa is an idea
Proud boys are a group
Yeah I’m not saying that as a cheeky comparison, I’m saying antifascists should literally actually do that
Too many people don’t seem to understand the difference.
