• NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I find it weird that people so vehemently deny that Hamas builds infrastructure near civilian sites. It’s well documented. Doesn’t excuse the thousands of civilians that Israel has killed in this horrible war, but that level of collateral damage is one of Hamas’ aims to shape public opinion. Israel is foolish for feeding into that, they’ve squandered international good will for a goal I don’t think is attainable.

    • kescusay@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      It’s been mind-boggling to see. I mean, “well documented” is kind of an understatement. And so is “near,” actually. Hamas tries to literally merge their infrastructure with civilian infrastructure, making it impossible to differentiate between the two, with the express purpose of using civilians as human shields.

      And yes, “foolish” is also an understatement. Israel’s conservative-controlled government has responded exactly as Hamas wanted them to. It was a trap, an obvious one, and they fell right into it.

    • Hatsune Miku @lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      probably because they support the actions or are so binary in their beliefs that there can’t be two bad guys

        • kescusay@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Hamas isn’t Palestine. Hamas, and groups like it, have their stated, public goal being the complete destruction of Israel, and simply will not negotiate peace. At all. They consider it their religious duty to eradicate Jewish people for existing in the wrong place.

          Yes, of course Israel’s actions have made it worse, by giving Hamas oxygen and credibility, but it’s a mischaracterization to treat Hamas as just some random guy Israel kept locked up.

          There are no good guys in this conflict, and all involved - except for civilians on both sides - have been terrible to each other for a long time.

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            1 year ago

            Palestine at least has the excuse that they haven’t voted for a long time, Israel doesn’t.

    • blahsay@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Hamas attacked, committed the most sickening acts (murdered and kidnapped baby’s and women to rape) and took hostages back to gaza. Israel was never going to sit back quietly after that (or could anyone).

      That was Hamas’s plan though. Cause as much suffering as possible to their own people to generate propaganda against Israel and hopefully isolate them for later attacks.

      The most sickening thing is the Hamas betrayal of their own people. To use them in this way is beyond barbaric.