• Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    ICE agents arent fascists. They are americans who want a high paying job. Its an awful job and only barely worth it with a six figure salary. If people took more of a stand against working there, they would raise the wages until people want to.

    In a way its a good thing these people are mostly doing it for money, which won’t much matter in a civil war.

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      22 hours ago

      You are clearly not paying attention to the crazy hiring spree ICE is doing, and the ads they’re posting to drive it, or the sort of people that they’re hiring, or their predominant beliefs.

      Willful ignorance is a hell of a drug.

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        21 hours ago

        I know what they are doing, and I know the type of people working there. They are not unforgivable or unredeemable, as much as it makes you feel good to say so.

        Lemmy and reddit both have a huge bias towards black and white thinking, which I think is shortsighted and immature.

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          21 hours ago

          If a fascist wants to become not a fascist, good for them, and yes, they should be embraced for turning their backs on that insanity.

          That absolutely does not mean that fascists should be treated with kids gloves, or given the benefit of the doubt. Ever.

          You get empathy when you walk away from that shit. Not before.

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            20 hours ago

            I simply dont think we should make them and their families scared to live in their homes. Thats not the point of all this, and its not going to change anyone’s mind.

            I will not condone what ia being done but I’m also not going to condemn the people doing it.

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              20 hours ago

              It must be pointed out that a lot of the people doing it, especially recently, are racist, fascist assholes. So yeah, I’m absolutely going to condemn the people doing it. And I think your attempt to morally fence-sit on that topic is at best comically naïve, and at worst deeply disingenuous.

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      22 hours ago

      ICE agents arent fascists.

      How did you decide that? All polling disagrees with you, so what do you know that we don’t?

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        22 hours ago

        Yeah its unfortunate that people are susceptible to making actions against their own values. Fortunately people never stay the same and constantly grow and change.

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      Billionaires are just following the american dream, they found a high paying job is all. Its not their fault they did evil things along the way!

      Come on y’all, let’s not pick on the poor fascists!

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            21 hours ago

            I dont think you know what bad faith means. Its definitely not when you think someones contradicted themselves.

            I asked who we were talking about again because this post and conversation is about ICE agents, not billionaires.

            Unless there are some billionaires larping as ICE agents, then I dont see how thats relevant, and I dont care to start off on some tangent for no reason.

            If you think I’m wrong though feel free to explain why.