• sbv@sh.itjust.works
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    9 hours ago

    At no point does the comment say your government shouldn’t pay off loans. It sounds more like they want the perfect and the good.

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      9 hours ago

      The OP is a comic about people being opposed to student loans for the most stupid and selfish of reasons.

      Screen Shatter proceeds to, at best, make a non sequitor about why student loan forgiveness is actually not a good thing. I then point out that while there are many arguments in favor of focusing on the root cause (that I agree should be the goal), people who bring that up in response to “should we forgive student loans” are almost always arguing in bad faith.

      Think less in terms of reading completely unrelated twitter posts and more about an actual conversation and why someone would say X in response to Y. Because Context. It’s a B.

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        6 hours ago

        In conversations I find it’s best to operate with a positive view of the person I’m talking to. Rather than assuming intent, I go with what they’ve said and hope for the best until I know otherwise.

        You assumed Screen_Shatter disagreed with loan forgiveness, even though they didn’t say that in their comment. Happily, the Screen_Shatter replied to you, and they agreed with it! It turns out you have something in common! Just because they have other ideas doesn’t mean they disagree on this one.

        Assuming Screen_Shatter disagreed was a mistake and it made the conversation less pleasant. Just like telling someone:

        Think less in terms of reading completely unrelated twitter posts and …

        Lemmy is a small community. Assume the best about folks on here and help make it more welcoming. Hopefully it’ll grow.

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          5 hours ago

          Yeah. I prefer to operate under the assumption that people are at least trying to have a conversation. Rather than just walking around spewing non sequitors. If someone feels they were misinterpreted, they can reply and clarify… rather than get angry that people interpreted what they wrote rather than what they were thinking. That is, again, how you have a conversation.

          Lemmy is a small community.

          STRONG disagree. Lemmy is a small (for the modern internet) userbase. Not a community. A community is one where you regularly get to know others and… communicate. Lemmy, like basically all modern social media, is people shouting into a void. Hell, Lemmy is on the worse end of that since so many of us came from reddit where all that matters is looking for keywords and writing the right canned/meme response to get the most updoots.

          Think about it this way: How often have you actually interacted with someone and thought “I want to get to know that person better” or even “Hey, it is so and so. I wonder how the event they were talking about went?”. I personally have a few new internet friends from Mastodon funny enough. But Lemmy? We reddit up in here.

          And… you know a great way to never make those connections? By assuming nobody is communicating or responding to anyone else and considering every comment to be made in a void.


          I’ll also refrain from pointing out the difference between clarifying intent and doubling down or how often chuds have used this very same “assume the best of everyone” to spread hate over the decades of the modern internet.