• Leon@pawb.social
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      Right. Ten hour old account come to spew weird racism and bigotry.

      I used to do homework help, a good chunk of the kids were Romani. They were just regular kids, and the parents were just regular parents. Hell, they cared more than my own mother did.

      You can fuck off, you racist weirdo.

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      Evil is not hereditary. There is no ethnic group of people who are evil.

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        It’s the so called travellers that are evil. Pretty much all travellers in some places are roma, but it seems increasingly few roma are travellers because I haven’t really heard much of them recently in my country.

        Generally, travellers raise their children to be thieves at a young age. Once they break out of that isolated crime community cycle, they’re just people and blend into society.

        Unfortunately in a lot of people’s eyes, roma people are still a travellers. Seems in my country they’ve mostly gotten jobs instead of stealing and telling fortunes though, so nobody really cares about them anymore.

        Edit: A lot of people are not getting this apparently (and also many are). Travellers are pretty much equivalent to gangs, but in a way even worse (yet also significantly less violent, luckily). They don’t want their children to get educated, because they don’t want better lives for their children. So yes, the original (and generally still ongoing) cause is poverty and discrimination, but there’s an element of “we don’t even WANT to be part of society” here. They have entirely different values from most other people as such. As such, just treating Roma as equals isn’t enough. There’s a need for outreach programs to try to get them to even WANT to integrate in larger numbers. It used to be that basically all Roma were travellers, and a huge problem is that people are still so prejudiced that in at least some European languages, the word for traveller and Roma is the same (it being essentially a slur, such as gypsy). Also through no fault of their own, knowledge of the word “roma” or “romani” is not as widespread as it should be… And the word itself sounds a lot like we’re talking about someone from Rome or Romania.

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          This is just wrong.

          Poor and marginalized people commit acts of desperation. Acts like raising their children to be thieves at a young age. Once they stop being poor and marginalized, they’re just people and blend into society.

          Unfortunately Roma are poor and marginalized.

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            It is more complicated than that, and it changes country by country. There are cultural/traditional issues that contribute to perpetrating the vicious circle of poverty. One such factor is preventing kids from attending schools. This makes some people unable to speak local language and functionally unemployable, paving the road to poverty and marginalization.

            That said, at least in my country this issue affects a tiny minority of the Roma population. An even smaller minority is apolid, mostly coming from ex-Yugoslavia, which obviously causes several problems with the ability to work.

            The main aspect though is that “solutions” proposed by many governments, like building “camps” when they can settle, are just ineffective from all points of view, prevent integration and foster the tendency to a conservative and closed culture.

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            I mean they also refuse to let their children go to school, because they very much don’t want them to be part of society at large. They’re scared their children will get jobs and stop being part of their community. They’re very much “us vs them”. Those who aren’t into that “us vs them” mentality, make an effort to get out and, depending on country, have a pretty good shot at becoming not criminals.

            Edit: My edit to grandparent comment goes further into depth than this comment does. Yes, obviously the poverty cycle and discrimination is the original cause and still an ongoing issue. But after all these centuries, many don’t WANT to be part of society at large. Which is why simply a lack of discrimination isn’t enough. To integrate them, actual social programs are needed.

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          Insane how people just feel comfortable posting here about human beings the same way the Nazis spoke of “Untermensch”

          Like this is hideous and disgustingly open racism.

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      A reminder that across europe every country at some point were israel today - not even that long ago

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          I’m certain plenty of them are much better people than you are. You’re a terrible person. Your country would be better off if you left

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            On some level I wish there was a way to see what a obvious troll was saying so I could fight them in the future, Russians get their greedy fingers in every discussion online to sew discord and discontent so I would like to see a solid example of such bullshit

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              bruh if you don’t even know the difference between Roma and Romania maybe don’t litter the post with your comments

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                That’s hilarious. This guys got to be stupid or someone in a troll farm trying stir up racial tension in other countries

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              You’d fit in in Israel. You sound like you’d love to be in the IDF. Back in time you’d love to support the British and take the food of Indians as they go through famine because it sounds like today you’re happy to cast judgment over 1.4 billion people. You’d fit in with the party in 1941 Germany as well. You’d be happily on the side of genocide across the Americas. You’re trash. You’re anti-Israel from a distance but share their ideology. You’re pure trash

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                  You pointed out Roma people have roots back to India like that’s some sort of huge gotcha that people understand means terrible people. You’re in a racist bubble. Get out of it. In my country people from India have incredibly low crime rates and are usually highly educated. You need to make some friends outside of racist people. You seem to think what you believe in doesn’t make you a bad person. I’m concerned for your country if you represent the average person

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            and what else does your crystal ball tell you? you obviously never dealt with the problem. its easy to act fine on the keyboard. i bet im a better person then you.

            you should try touching grass