Mark my words, this was a hostile poaching operation by Microsoft. Like 65% convinced this was the case. We won’t know until 10 years have passed and some dumb emails end up in discovery on some unrelated lawsuit.
- Sam wants to push for more & quicker profit with MS and VC backing, but board resists, constant conflicts
- Sam aligns with MS, hatch a plan on how to gut OpenAI for its know-how, ppl, and tech, leaving the non-profit part bleeding out in the gutter
- Sam & MS set a trap: Sam crosses some red lines, maybe taking commercial decisions without board approval. Potentially there was also some whispering in key ears (e.g, Ilya) by seemingly helpful advisors/VCs to push & pull at the same time on both sides
- Board has enough after Sam doesn’t back down, fires him & other co-founder guy
- MS and VCs go full attack to discredit board. After some info gathering, they realize they have been utterly fucked
- Some chaos, quick decision of appointing/replacing ppl, trying to manage the fire, even talking to Sam (btw this might have been a fallback option for MS, that the board reinstates him with more control and guardrails, weakening the power of the non-profit)
- Sam joins MS, masks are off
- Employees on the sinking ship revolt, even Ilya realizes he was manipulated/fucked
- OpenAI dead, key ppl join MS, tech and rest of the company bought for scraps. Non-profit part dead. Capitalist victory
Source: subjective interpretation/deduction based on the available info and my experience working as a management consultant for 10 years (dealing with lot of exec politics, though nothing this serious)
Wow, that’s exactly my thoughts. Thanks for posting and taking the time.
So, the board, with no financial gain, kicks him out and now investors want to fire the board. Money wins again.
The board wants him back too. The whole thing is a clown show.
TL;DR: still don’t know anything. No one seems interested in saying wtf they’re doing.
Probably shouldn’t rehire someone you probably fired over sexually assaulting his sister…
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I had never heard this before but googled it.
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There is none. There are some rumors and past allegations but no evidence or confirmation on why he was removed. Not sure why so many people go around spouting random things as facts.
Take Sam’s dick out of your mouth and maybe you can find the source
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I love the jock riders down voting me. Maybe if you kiss Sam’s ass enough he’ll make you rich too 🥺
We aren’t downvoting you because we assume that didn’t happen. We are downvoting you because there is zero evidence that that is why he was fired.
Great! I’m being down voted because you lack reading comprehension
Ironic that you are accusing us of reading comprehension issues considering your link says the following:
While we obviously don’t have any insight into the company’s decision, there is a lot of speculation being thrown about online that the move to remove Sam Altman, which came just over a month after Annie Altman’s allegations garnered attention in October, may possibly have less to do with his business abilities snd more to do with personal controversies.
Your conclusion is based on nothing more than speculation, so you might want to work on your reading comprehension before going around accusing others of the same problem that you clearly are suffering from.
Homie I’m not the one coming to the rescue of a dude that sexually assaulted his sister.
Lol I’m not rescuing anyone, just pointing out the factual innacuracies in what you are saying. I have shown you where your evidence did not say what you were implying, but please, show me where I’m wrong with evidence.
ETA: also, you’re wrongly assuming I wouldn’t want him to be fired for sexual assaulting his sister. I do want that, but at the current time, there is nothing other than speculation that would imply that is why he was fired, so I’ve downvoted you for spreading misinformation and for doubling down on your misinformation once that fact has been pointed out to you.
- You have evidence of your accusation?
- You have evidence that is why he was fired?
No, and no.
This is why you’re being downvoted, and then you decide to double-down by insulting people. I would say that reflects an ideological perspective.
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There is a post on lesswrong which compiles the accusations made by the sister. Having worked with many incest victims, family scapegoats and Cinderellas I’ll say the story is familiar to what I’ve heard before and therefore credible.
Please link that.
You’ve been downvoted, but the posts from his sister definitely don’t look great, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that was why the board kicked him out.
I’m getting downvoted by embrassed billionaires 😂
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It’s hilarious that people think this had anything to do with ethics. Money. It’s always about money.
