Aside from men being horny in the 1800s, and this being a holdover since that time, is there any actual reason why this hasn’t changed?

If society was dominated by women, would this be more likely to change?

I was sweating my ass off hiking in the hot sun, and the question has been bothering me all day after my top soaked through with sweat.

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    … Because boobs are a part of the gender? Because they’re part of what makes you a woman? Stop comparing boobs to ankles, geez… Use you actual brain.

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      So, any woman with a double mastectomy is no longer a woman? Damn, cancer keeps getting harder and harder.

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        Part of, you also have your vagina? If not, you got your xx chromosomes? So no you’re still a woman, but you knew this. Wishing you a full recovery ❤️

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          Holy shit, that is a fucked up thing to say.

          Like imagine telling a woman with cancer, “luckily, your vagina is the only thing keeping you a woman”. As if their genitalia is what defines them as a woman.

          What a disgusting thing to say. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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            I never said that. I said you still have your vagina and two xx chromosomes. Wich technically makes you a woman.

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              Oh, my bad. I’m glad you told her she is only less of a woman because she has no breasts.

              People like you are sick in the head.

              Women aren’t less women because they lose their breasts. They’re not less women for not having a vagina, whatever the fuck that means. Like, if your labia or clitoris are removed, are you less of a woman? If your uterus is removed, are you less of a woman? What a disgusting thing to tell women, that their womanhood is their genitals.

              People like you make breast cancer so much harder than it already is.

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                I literally never said any of that.

                This is a weird conversation and I just realized I’ve been having it with multiple different people. I thought it was just one person. So let me recalibrate.

                And actually bounce, because this is getting less about what’s being said and the ideas behind the opinions and more just emotional garbage… for me at least, sorry. I’m really sorry you’re going through a lot. I really wish you a full recovery for ever ❤️ But for me to go down this road with you over an issue I never intended do discuss… No… Sorry but no.

                I also hope you get the help you need, and I’m guessing you’re American so I wish you all the best going forward. With or without tits and shirts.

                Bye ✌️🕊️

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      So a male breast is not part of the gender? Something beging part of what makes you a man or a woman certainly isn’t where we draw the line.

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      Grow the fuck up and start thinking like an adult and not a horny little boy. Oh uncomfortably hot sweat woman… She must want me because boobs. Jesus.

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        I’m a woman. But hey, good luck with your problem. I see you wanted 0 criticism. Good luck 👍

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        I must note the irony of you wanting someone to grow up whilst getting very emotional real quick. Again, good luck.

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          Looks like it’s you who are all emotional lol.

          And why should that be a bad thing BTW?

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            Not really emotional over here, girl. I’m noticing that you’re fired up and won’t continue down that path. I understand why you got upset tho as I told you to use your actual brain. However it matters because you brought up maturity. You did, not me. But to look at it factually, without emotion, to answer your question. Men don’t have breast, they have a chest. And yes, walking without a shirt is pretty indecent,even if you’re a man. Ask yourself why it’s not common practice. It’s just indecent. However, it’s completely indecent for a woman to do so. To answer why, there are a few questions to consider. Firstly, what is gender and genetalia? Is it penis and vagina? Yes. Is it also ass? I mean, everyone has one… So is it genetalia or is it just dirty, and thats why we cover it? Is it okay to go without pants? I mean, it’s just a penis or a vagina? Stop being so horny? It’s just an ass. Are breast genetalia or is it a female signifier? If it’s neither and it’s just a body part, or if the fact that female signifiers should be allowed to be flashed either way: Why can’t a person grab your breast to get your attention? It’s just a body part. Can they grab you arm? That’s just a bodypart. I mean yeah, it’s not really convenient to grab a boob to get somebodys attention, but say it was. In a specific moment it was a way for somebody to get you attention. It’s not okay tho for somebody to touch it. Is it okay for somebody to stare at them? It’s just a bodypart. What if they stare at your hands? What if they’re shy and the only way to speak to you is by staring at your hands. Would that be ok? But what if they stared at your breasts? Would that also be okay? That’s why I conclude that women can’t walk around without a shirt just because they’re warm. However, since you asked peoples opinion, here’s mine: if a woman is wearing a sports bra, go ahead. Take off your shirt, just don’t take off your sports bra. And if you have a problem with not being able to walk outside with your tits out, maybe ask yourself what private parts are and if maybe… Just maybe you would like to not make other people uncomfortable by flashing yours… In this whole age of consent. But hey, girl, you do you

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              Hey I don’t know if you know this, but people actually can’t touch you anywhere without your permission, including your arm!

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                So if you’re about to step in front of a cr and get run over, the person next to you can’t grab you arm? Everything is not black or white. I’m speaking in hypotheticals were that would be the situation… Did you even read what I wrote? And do you want to talk about the “not wearing a shirt” thing or…?