According to the Whitehouse, this has not been reached yet
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Ah, thanks!
No problem. Honestly I appreciate your effort of sharing, but I don’t wanna see you get in trouble over it ☹️
Paywall. Is Israel also going to release Palestinian women and children hostages?
People complain when I post stories from 3rd parties that say “according to Washington Post” and people complain when I link the Washington Post lol
The article only mentions releasing hostages in Gaza
Different people complaining, I think.
Conflict? How the fuck they gonna call it a ‘conflict’? It’s an outright terrorist fucking war!
But hey, let’s just tell them to press the pause button, they can go back to their ‘conflict’ tomorrow…
Yes, Israel is a terrorist state.
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Did I name a country? Did I name a group? No.
I don’t know for myself what all factors led up to the current situation going on over there, other than what the news and media presents. As if I trust everything I hear on the news…
But I do know the extreme destruction and massive deaths we’re all seeing on the news. That’s not a conflict, a conflict is when two dudes fist fight at a bar.
To call the events going on over there a conflict is a goddamn joke, call it for what it is, terrorism.
Being ignorant of the facts doesn’t change them.
Israel colonized and displaced the indigenous population 75+ years ago and have been doing the genocide thing ever since.
I agree it’s not a conflict at all but a genocide.
I’ll definitely agree with your term as well, it’s a genocide.
Two wrongs don’t make a right… ☹️
Two wrongs are almost never equivalent.
Also you’re incorrect. Suicide is a wrong. Hitler was a wrong. But that turned out ok.
Some British folks colonized and displaced the Native Americans over 200 years ago. I’m partly Native American myself, but am I all butthurt about it? Nothing I can or even should do about it.
Yes it sucks, but things that happened decades or even centuries before I was born ain’t my problem. All they’re doing is dragging on more and more death and destruction, and that ain’t right, I don’t care how anyone looks at it.
Are you annoyed at how native Americans are treated today?
Suicide is not wrong.
And it should be a right.
Suicide should be a right. It’s wrong that any consciousness should be in a situation where it’s even a consideration.
If you’re going to quote history, try quoting all of it not just the parts that suit your story.
Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, and expeditionary forces from Iraq entered Palestine.[16][17][18][19] The invading forces took control of the Arab areas and immediately attacked Israeli forces and several Jewish settlements.[
Israel after the war had a significant interest in controlling access to the golan heights which was the pass used by those armies and passage was allowed by Palestine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War
I don’t know about you but if my neighbor is allowing people to walk into my yard and start a fight with me, I’m going to have a problem and want to have a controlled access solution.
And no, I’m not interested in further conversations with you specifically because I don’t believe you’re making good faith arguments. I believe that you’re jumping on to at best a “fuck Israel” bandwagon and at worst a “fuck Jews” bandwagon that’s all too common these days.
If anyone else is interested in discussing we can start with my stance, I am a Jew and I abhore the actions being taken in Israel and Palestine today. I wish for a peaceful resolution of the conflict and a solution that allows for a lasting peace where neither country is concerned with land based invasions.
That says nothing of the displacement of the people there.
I’m a Jew as well but very far from a Zionist. Fuck Israel indeed. My ancestors weep at what Zionists are doing and trying to associate that with “Jewishness”.
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Uh Palestinians are not fucking indigenous.
Palestine only became an idea after the Muslim conquest of the levant in the late 600s CE, when the Arabs went on their own genocide across the entire Middle East conquering everything and raping and killing everyone in sight.
If you want to talk about indigenous, then you’d have to go back to the Israelites around 3200 years ago, or the Philistines before them.
I mean it’s the fertile crescent. It’s been likely that it’s been being recolonized for hundreds of thousands of years. Not really any other landroutes out of Africa.
Which means that nobody there is indigenous. The actual indigenous peoples have been genocided over millennia.
Or that many groups have indigenous claims to the area.
For example, pacific islanders didnt’ get to many islands till the 900-1100 time period. We’d still call them indigenous peoples of those places.
More than one thing can be true at the same time.
Indigenous people having rights is a rather modern concept in terms of human history.
Umm, hate to break it to you but the actual word Palestinian is derived from the Hebrew word for Philistines. You couldn’t be more wrong in everything that you wrote.
Both Jews and Arabs from that area share a common ancestry (as proven by DNA testing).
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And the Jews were there first. Before the Arab Muslims genocided them. Of course they share common DNA, the Muslims raped every woman from birth to the grave there.
The Jews and the Palestinians are both Semites and share a common ancestry. The Palestinians have also been there for centuries now. They are the defacto indigenous population there at this moment.
Alright, everyone needs to learn to identify trolls/hateful idiots and just not engage when it’s on this level. To be crystal clear, I’m referring to the user Earthwormjim91.
If this individual truly believes the delusional bullshit they’re peddling, do you really think you are going to change their addled mind? No. Just bury hate and misinformation like this with downvotes and move on.
There’s no fruitful discussion to be had with people like this. They just spew bullshit like diarrhea in regard to any evidence or counterpoint. They argue in bad faith and are not bound by facts, logic, or the truth.
Engaging with toxic users like this just provides more comments for them to respond to and spread more hateful lies and misinformation.
Don’t feed trolls people.
“Like in other ‘Arabized’ Arab nations, the Arab identity of Palestinians, largely based on linguistic and cultural affiliation, is independent of the existence of any actual Arabian origins.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians
Please realize there are lots of Palestinian Christians. They identify as Palestinians.
TL;DR Palestinian lineage doesn’t come from Saudi Arabia.
