You’re ignoring all of the measures Apple implementatedin the 10 years since those Snowden leaks.
You’re also making a baseless claims that Apple knowingly participated with the NSA, which Apple denies indicating it was an inside threat actor working directly with the NSA without Apple’s knowledge.
Some data is stored in other providers clouds, Amazon and Google specifically and those clouds are the sources that were compromised. Apple has added end to end encryption to mitigate that.
For their own cloud services, the measures Apple goes to secure their servers is not trivial. They have employed strict chain of custody and it’s why they call out services that do their off device processes using Apple hardware.
Apple is working to build out their own cloud but anyone with basic knowledge understands that the hardware they manufacture isn’t the type used by cloud providers.
The changes in how containers work on Mac OS is because of their own internal work on using their own hardware for containers that are being used to expand their internal cloud because even Apple with their billion dollar contracts with built in penalities doesn’t trust Google.
Knowing what I know, I put Google dead last when it comes to my data. Microsoft and Amazon are several magnitudes more trustworthy and I don’t trust them either because they openly work with government agencies.
But sure, keep using Android because Apple isn’t perfect. Google appreciates you’re choosing to feed their algorithms directly.
as if apple isn’t doing most of the same. i’m ignoring it because their claims are irrelevant. they can’t prove anything either way because their code is closed and their devices are locked tight.
even if they truly cared beyond what they say in their marketing material, they also can’t say no to US three letter agencies, as also leaked by snowden.
their… code isn’t closed? please link me to their repository, so i can check ios for backdoors. i’ll wait.
also please notice i’m not discussing the merits of their choice to close it down here. i’m discussing their inability to show us they are truthful about their products being private.
bathes one in false comfort
what makes you think i’m comfortable with being spied on and manipulated by these vultures?
before attacking others personally, ask yourself who really wants false comfort. “oh, but apple doesn’t do it!” yeah right.
I literally don’t care for the “android had x features n years ago, therefore android is better” argument
It’s not just about features. It’s literally the ENTIRE experience that’s better.
iOS is significantly more user friendly than android. It just FEELS better.
I personally find android to be clunky and jagged. I’m a developer I do software and I’ve developed for both android and iOS. Android is nicer with app deployment and side loading (though that is changing). iPhone is more restrictive. But for me in terms of every day use. I’m choosing the iPhone.
Hate to overuse the word “ecosystem” but that’s the silver bullet for me. I used to be an Android user, but bought the kids iPads years ago. I bought one for myself during lockdown when I decided I’d like to learn to draw digitally, then over the years bought an iPhone, then AirPods, then an Apple Watch, iPhones for the kids, an Apple TV, subscribed to Apple One etc.
It’s expensive, sure, but everything is just so seamlessly and flawlessly integrated. One device on its own could arguably be better or worse than a competitor’s, but all together it’s not even a contest.
Big fucking lol.
Can’t believe people are still this fucking delusional.
Which Android feature from 5 years ago are you most excited for them to add to this release?
Exhaustive data harvesting
I was hoping for irremovable malware.
My money was on delayed OS releases because of vendors.
apple has been doing that one for quite a while.
Not nearly in Google’s league
snowden leaked that they are on google’s league since the 2000’s
You’re ignoring all of the measures Apple implementatedin the 10 years since those Snowden leaks.
You’re also making a baseless claims that Apple knowingly participated with the NSA, which Apple denies indicating it was an inside threat actor working directly with the NSA without Apple’s knowledge.
Some data is stored in other providers clouds, Amazon and Google specifically and those clouds are the sources that were compromised. Apple has added end to end encryption to mitigate that.
For their own cloud services, the measures Apple goes to secure their servers is not trivial. They have employed strict chain of custody and it’s why they call out services that do their off device processes using Apple hardware.
Apple is working to build out their own cloud but anyone with basic knowledge understands that the hardware they manufacture isn’t the type used by cloud providers.
The changes in how containers work on Mac OS is because of their own internal work on using their own hardware for containers that are being used to expand their internal cloud because even Apple with their billion dollar contracts with built in penalities doesn’t trust Google.
Knowing what I know, I put Google dead last when it comes to my data. Microsoft and Amazon are several magnitudes more trustworthy and I don’t trust them either because they openly work with government agencies.
But sure, keep using Android because Apple isn’t perfect. Google appreciates you’re choosing to feed their algorithms directly.
as if apple isn’t doing most of the same. i’m ignoring it because their claims are irrelevant. they can’t prove anything either way because their code is closed and their devices are locked tight.
even if they truly cared beyond what they say in their marketing material, they also can’t say no to US three letter agencies, as also leaked by snowden.
Their code isn’t closed.
Their devices are locked tight for security reasons. You can’t have it both ways on that one.
Your rebuttal is basically, nuh-on.
Threads like this remind me of the Asimov quote, that describes such rebuttals as, “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
Anti-intellectualism is believing how the world works rather than bothering with a always expanding working theory as to how the world truely works.
A lazy approach that bathes one in false comfort by confirming all their biases.
A world view that cumulates into an air of superiority that is paper thin.
their… code isn’t closed? please link me to their repository, so i can check ios for backdoors. i’ll wait.
also please notice i’m not discussing the merits of their choice to close it down here. i’m discussing their inability to show us they are truthful about their products being private.
what makes you think i’m comfortable with being spied on and manipulated by these vultures?
before attacking others personally, ask yourself who really wants false comfort. “oh, but apple doesn’t do it!” yeah right.
There is absolutely a lesser of two evils here
that’d be a degoogled android, yes.
Not one of the two, but each to their own.
literally one of the two, and a way to actually make it a lesser evil instead of “just like the other one”.
I literally don’t care for the “android had x features n years ago, therefore android is better” argument
It’s not just about features. It’s literally the ENTIRE experience that’s better.
iOS is significantly more user friendly than android. It just FEELS better.
I personally find android to be clunky and jagged. I’m a developer I do software and I’ve developed for both android and iOS. Android is nicer with app deployment and side loading (though that is changing). iPhone is more restrictive. But for me in terms of every day use. I’m choosing the iPhone.
Hate to overuse the word “ecosystem” but that’s the silver bullet for me. I used to be an Android user, but bought the kids iPads years ago. I bought one for myself during lockdown when I decided I’d like to learn to draw digitally, then over the years bought an iPhone, then AirPods, then an Apple Watch, iPhones for the kids, an Apple TV, subscribed to Apple One etc.
It’s expensive, sure, but everything is just so seamlessly and flawlessly integrated. One device on its own could arguably be better or worse than a competitor’s, but all together it’s not even a contest.
Like I said…
Delusional.
Get wriggidy WREKT’D Son!
Thanks for your insightful and detailed logic driven response