Those sevens are weird, what a weird font
Not at all. The issue with Bluesky’s “federation” is, you can’t really set it up at home, you need thousands of dollars and it’s not really accessible.
Search up “Mastodon instances” and then “Bluesky instances” you see like thousands for Mastodon and only the official one for Bluesky. It’s marketing gimmick for the mainstream normies who want to pretend they have freedom but in reality they’re just jumping on the train with the billionaire who runs it.
you need thousands of dollars
Search up “Mastodon instances” and then “Bluesky instances”
Bluesky has a different architecture, there are no “instances”, it’s PDSs, relays and AppViews, all of which can be and are already being self-hosted.
they’re just jumping on the train with the billionaire who runs it
If you mean Dorsey, he has had nothing to do with Bluesky for well over a year now because he resented them implementing moderation tools
IMO, setting it up at home is not the bar for decentralization. I don’t think it’s even practical to run your own self-hosted fediverse server.
I think we can get just about all the same benefits of decentralization at the scale of the city.
IMO, setting it up at home is not the bar for decentralization.
That’s exactly where I set the bar.
Same here.
What makes it impractical? The model’s been working here for years.
https://europe.pub/post/4092620
Post about Bluesky decentralization.
bluesky is twitter without the nazification by musk.
Give it time…
It’s Dorsey era twitter. Full of crazies.
Everytime I see bluesky PBC I have to resist the urge to rant. There is no such thing as a public benefit corporation. Its just marketing BS.
Actually there is a legal definition, a Public Benefit Corporation has statutes in its articles of incorporation which legally commit the company to pursue a set purpose which supersedes the fiduciary responsibility of the corporation to shareholders. This is important because it provides some degree of legal protection from activist shareholders suing the company for making spending or policy decisions which don’t directly maximize shareholder value. The body of law around this issue is still relatively murky, but some defense is better than none at all.
For example, shareholders could attempt to sue BlueSky into increasing advertising placement or data sales functionality intothe core platform to increase company revenues, but if that is at odds with their stated public benefit purpose the legal team for BluSky would have grounds to attempt to dismiss the suit on the grounds that the shareholders purchase the shares under the explicit understanding that these functions would be subordinated to the public benefit goals of the platform.
Be strong now. Mastodon is a gGmbH. That’s the German version and translates to public benefit limited liability corporation.
Thats a super cool visualization! This might make a really cool post for [email protected]! Maybe a screenshot with a seperate link to the site
Thanks for posting this! 😊
[Edit: I see the problem, even with a self-hosted instance of 1, when you comment on posts in other instances that data is no longer held on your server, so you don’t own it and can’t control it directly, is that right?]
So as I understand it the big “advantage” of ATProtocol is the account portability via DID, however this is at the sacrifice of actually hosting an ATProtocol being extremely data heavy.
This has made me very curious about self-hosting ActivityPub (meaning an instance of 1 user), it would seem like focusing development on a client that makes it as close to as easy to self-host an instance as it is to join one would solve the issue of accountability portability, as you literally own all the data and rights when you self host. The Major challenge I see there is security, where experienced admins for larger instances should have some level of cybersecuroty expertise while the average use may have little to none. But then focusing group effort on auto-updating the client and the default settings of the client to maximize security would solve that issue it would seem?
So what am I missing? Other than hosting costs, what else is deferring a self-hosted-first development approach for the Fediverse?
Is it actually that AP development fundamentally believe moderation should be handled at the admin/instance level, and self-hosting makes moderation more difficult and less directly authority based?
Publicly shared blacklists and whitelists would seem the natural fit for a self-hosted-first network, akin to adblock and horizontal.
Edit: I see the problem, even with a self-hosted instance of 1, when you comment on posts in other instances that data is no longer held on your server, so you don’t own it and can’t control it directly, is that right?
The “problem” is also going the other way around. If a large instance is sharing data with your single user instance, they ultimately cannot control what you do with it.
The same is true if you just scrape the website.
Isn’t that a non-problem? I mean, afaik, you cannot control any data after it’s sent. If I send you an email with an attachment, I cannot stop you from forwarding it to everyone you know, nor can I stop you from editing it before forwarding. I guess it becomes a problem of reliability, then, which is only a problem if the original source is unavailable - which is not that uncommon in the fediverse.
It is a “problem” if your goal is full ownership and control over your user interactions and data footprint. ATProtocol in principle achieves this, you can delete or move your account and all your user interactions will be deleted or follow you (meaning edit permissions, full access to all the posts/comments, follows, updoots, etc.). The cost of this is a very high data load for the host, though I’m still not clear on exactly why it is so much more data intensive, is it the size of lookup instructions between hosts in addition to the actual markdown?
