The Force Awakens and its follow-ups had so few memorable characters, it’s a wonder Disney – and Oscar Isaac – are still talking about potential spin-offs

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    1 day ago

    Even though I have always classified Star Wars firmly as fantasy and not sci-fi, I find the Holdo maneuver utterly unforgivable. TBH Starkiller Base was almost as bad, take the two of them together and intragalactic combat in the Star Wars universe should be instant and apocalyptic. Why even build spaceships when you can just point hyperdrives at your target from any distance, or just laser them from across the galaxy?

    Of course I don’t expect the movies to follow this train of thought, but that’s frankly why it’s a problem. The people writing this shlock don’t think about the ramifications for two seconds, they just do what sounds cool and let the fans figure it out. But it really shatters any suspension of disbelief, and exposes how grossly uncurious the writing leads are about the universe they’re crafting. All big movies are profit-driven, but it’s nice to see at least some amount of effort to disguise that fact.

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      21 hours ago

      There was no need for Holdo to even do that. They have astromech droids to pilot ships for a reason.

      So much of TLJ just failed to make sense. Mostly because Johnson wrote the script himself and didn’t have anyone else review it.

      I mentioned before the whole bit with the tracking jewel, which Leia tells Rey can be used to find them anywhere immediately followed in the same scene by the First Order jumping in… “THEY TRACKED US?? THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE!!”

      Dude, not only did you just explain how it is POSSIBLE, tracking the Falcon was how the Death Star found Yavin in the very first fucking movie. We KNOW it’s possible.

      But beyond that… That whole casino sequence… They are told that in order to get through First Order defenses, they have to find this ONE GUY, a codebreaker at the casino.

      Apparently, no, they didn’t need that one guy, it’s easy enough to do that another guy being held in Casino Jail can also do it.

      Meanwhile, Rey just floats through the defenses in an escape pod, no codebreaking necessary AT ALL.

      Luke shows up at the end, is younger, doesn’t break the salt surface of the planet, and is using a lightsaber previously destroyed, so we know he’s not real…

      But before all that, he hands Leia the dice off the Falcon. How can he do that if he’s an intangible force ghost?

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        12 hours ago

        Rey also gives Kilo a saber through the force in RoS.

        It’s weird, and those things are some of my least favorite additions of the series.