• shoo@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Trump is not in Putin’s pocket. You need to pay attention to what politicians actually do

    He has demonstrably deconstructed the aid and intelligence network surrounding Ukraine. He quite literally halted aid in the lead up to a Russian offensive. He’s eased sanctions. You can easily find these real and tangible examples and contrast them with previous administrations and his own past actions. He doesn’t give two shits about supporting Ukraine with the exception of keeping a nominal threat around to line his pockets.

    It’s not “BlueAnon” (whatever you imagine that is) to open your eyes and call a spade a spade. Nobody has been a more consistent political winner in the last 20 years than Russia. Putin has talked and written about his geopolitical strategy, it’s not a secret. Russia’s online propaganda proliferation is honed to a fine point; and you don’t even have to trust a filthy western government on that, just review the publicly available research yourself.

    If you know anyone who lives/has lived in Eastern Europe they won’t hesitate to tell you their experience with Russia as a neighbor. Your picture of a poor, resource limited country is 100% accurate and completely in line with their expansionist ambitions. It’s why they’ve always maintained an outsized strategic focus on military strength and indirect subversion.

    What do you mean by “copy and paste” arguments? My arguments are very consistent with other communist orgs… [pasted links and unexamined block quotes]

    If you want to meaningfully engage with political reality outside of your echo chamber, you have to start by not dismissing everything you disagree with whole-cloth and realize that you are basically never exposed to online content with honest motives.

    Look deeper and holistically at the platforms and people you engage with. For all of .ml’s criticism of wikipedia I never see any mention of the fact that all authors and edits can be explored, or that different language sources can be influenced in opposing directions (for example, compare Chinese to English on any article). For all of its flaws, it’s widely accessible to all actors and sees a ton of activity.

    Conversely, why put so much faith in ProleWiki? The number of editors is tiny and their identities are entirely obscure. There are vanishingly few competing viewpoints to contrast and the density of citations is extremely sparse in comparison. Its closer in scale and content to a personal blog than an honest knowledge base.

    I’d challenge you to read this leftist piece on Russia’s strategy from way back in 2015 (well before the term “Russian interference” had hit the mainstream) and contrast it with your usual sources.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      9 hours ago

      Trump doesn’t care about Ukraine. The west doesn’t care. What they care about is cornering Russia if possible, and carving Ukraine out for resources. The sanctions backfired, and drew Russia closer to the PRC, weakening US influence. NATO weaponry does not have the productive capacity to field a long-term war, these rollbacks are due to failure in strategy, not Putin having some mastermind level control over the west.

      As for Wikipedia, on political topics it is dominated by pro-NATO viewpoints. Prolewiki has fewer editors, but better sourcing, and as a communist I know their methodology is also better. If you have a reason to doubt them other than their size, then let me know, otherwise you’d doubt any book simply for having even fewer authors.

      You’ve given me no reason to trust you, nor to read that particular blog. I’ve read many already from contrasting viewpoints, it’s unlikely one more is going to fundamentally flip my understanding.