• azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      My grandfather was a non-religious freemason.

      I just checked, apparently in Continental Europe there are many lodges which don’t have strict spiritual requirements following France’s whole “fuck the clergy and also religion” in the 19th century.

      English-speaking lodges apparently tend to require belief in a “Supreme being” (and also forbid women from participating because why not at this point), but who knows; lodges are independent organizations and some of them can have different rules or turn a blind-eye, there’s no “pope of freemasonry” to set any rules.

      Also holy shit what a trip, the United Grand Lodge of England is… unironically misogynistic but not transphobic?? LMAO

      In 2018, guidance was released by the United Grand Lodge of England stating that, in regard to transgender women, “A Freemason who after initiation ceases to be a man does not cease to be a Freemason”. The guidance also states that transgender men are allowed to apply to become Freemasons.

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        1 year ago

        From my very limited experience with Freemasons here in Southern California, they are religious but very tolerant and accepting. No girls, though.

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        1 year ago

        I don’t think it’s misogynistic to have a boy’s only club.

        I’m not invited to my wife’s book club (girls only), does that make them men haters?

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          eeeeeeh

          Your wife’s book club probably isn’t made up of a large proportion of your country’s cultural, financial, and academic elites which are openly involved in politics.

          This isn’t some dudes meeting up in a bowling alley or a local bar, but rather one of the places where politics get made for real.

          It doesn’t have to be a bad thing; Belgium’s most prestigious university is a freemason project. But excluding women from such “soft power” exercises raises some alarm bells for me.