• WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    So an adult confronted a child in the restroom, banging on the door and demanding she prove her sex. The implied threat was that if she didn’t, she would be thrown from the restroom or the restaurant entirely.

    You are using a deliberately thick-headed definition of “force.” The word “force” does not literally mean physical force. It means coercion, manipulation, requiring someone to do something against their will for fear of consequences.

    I’m taught courses before. I don’t "force " my students to take exams. I’m not going to go to their home and frog march them at gunpoint into my classroom to take my exam. But anyone in my class is forced to take any exam I give, if they wish to pass the class. It’s optional in a philosophical sense, but not in the practical sense.

    You’re splitting hairs because this is a trans-related topic, nothing more.

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      So an adult confronted a child in the restroom,

      We don’t know the age of the server and 18 is an adult in the US.

      banging on the door and demanding she prove her sex.

      These are the only recorded statements of the server based on the victim’s testimony.

      “This is a women’s restroom. The man needs to get out of here,” […] “You have to get out now,”

      Which of these sentences is 'demanding she prove her sex?

      The implied threat was that if she didn’t, she would be thrown from the restroom or the restaurant entirely.

      There was no ‘if’ (see the two sentences above), she was told to get out of the restroom.

      I’m taught courses before. I don’t "force " my students to take exams. I’m not going to go to their home and frog march them at gunpoint into my classroom to take my exam. But anyone in my class is forced to take any exam I give, if they wish to pass the class. It’s optional in a philosophical sense, but not in the practical sense.

      They are required to take the test, you do not “force” them. If someone said ‘Teacher forces children to take test’, the implication is that they didn’t have a choice because you are forcing them.

      Here too, the woman was not “forced” she chose to show her breasts. Forcing implies the inability to do otherwise. The people in the comment section are reacting to the headline as if the woman had no choice but to show her breasts to the server. This is not true.

      You’re splitting hairs because this is a trans-related topic, nothing more.

      🙄 In the courses you taught, did you force your students to learn the term ad homenim?