• ReCursing@feddit.uk
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    2 days ago

    Good. Let’s normalise it so the rest of us can actually fucking use it!

    • madjo@feddit.nl
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      2 days ago

      Let’s not. Generative AI is bad for environment, it’s also using stolen assets.

      • WaitThisIsntReddit@lemmy.world
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        Every artist that ever saw another person’s art is “using stolen assets” then. Why is training a meat neural network more valid?

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        No it isn’t, the lack of renewables feeding into the energy grid is the problem, not AI - direct your ire in the right direction. Also no it doesn’t unless you completely redefine theft to me not theft - nothing is taken, no-one is denied access to existing things, and no copies are made

      • oplkill@lemmy.world
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        but what about self trained on paid data(with allowed authors) and used on local pc?

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          If you have the money for that, why not just hire those allowed authors and artists to make the art for you?

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            1 day ago

            its like to tell somebody: if you have moneys for self cooking food why dont order it from professionals

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              No it’s not. If you have paid for data to self train AI, you have paid artists already. Why use the AI slop, when you can use the actual work you purchased?

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        Not quite… I mean depending on what you’re comparing it to. Like if you compare it to a person doing it—breathing, eating, space(home, office…), electricity…—the Ilm is much more efficient. Now a random person that wouldn’t have produced any image, text, song… whatever, that is now generating a hundred of them a day is, indeed, very wasteful and bad for the environment.

        For comparison, the co2 emissions from training gpt3 were equivalent to 1250 people’s breathing for a year.

        Now about the stealing part, I’m not very fond of ‘intellectual property’ very much myself, nor am I very respectful of it, so I will not discuss it.

    • don@lemmy.ca
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      What’s stopping you from buying games from the nearly 8k that use that stupid AI shit? There’s gotta be some slop in there that suits your tastes.