• Tuukka R@sopuli.xyz
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    There is overwhelming evidence that this didn’t happen in the Jurassic era: Stegosaurs had been extinct for tens of millions of years at that point.

    The theropods (“possibly”) electrocuted contemporary dinosaurs, not dinosaurs that had gone extinct 100 million years earlier.

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    Is this slop or just sloppy? What’s with the little green arm behind the lightning and the weird meaty stego neck?

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    Is there actually any biologic mechanism to generat and conduct electricity at a high enough voltage and current that it can ionize air over a distance as large as that (looks like at least 1/2m) without damaging the actual animal doing it?

    Looking around, electric eels can do 860V, which is well short from the 15kV needed to gap 0.5m of air at sea level, plus that animal’s skin would need to be crazy insulating for all that power to not just go down the most highly conductive way possible (all the nice conductive water all the way down to the ground contained in the animal itself) instead of having to ionize 0.5m or air.

    I mean, we can always claim it was possible but lost, but then again we can also claim that for magic or animal teleportation.

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      Is there actually any biologic mechanism to generat and conduct electricity at a high enough voltage and current that it can ionize air over a distance as large as that (looks like at least 1/2m) without damaging the actual animal doing it?

      Midichlorians. The ability to cause an extinction level event is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

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      It’s actually not ionizing the air. It’s spraying a conductive gel that the electricity rides to the prey. That’s why it’s important to hold it down to the ground to make sure it has good contact with the earth.

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      Is there actually any biologic mechanism to generat and conduct electricity at a high enough voltage and current that it can ionize air over a distance as large as that (looks like at least 1/2m) without damaging the actual animal doing it?

      The force dude. Its pretty obvious the t-rex is a sith lord.

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      Just out of pedantry: Water has terrible conductivity. Blood is less terrible though and in any case air is far worse than either, so point stands.

      We can get past that particular issue if the electric dinosaur was jumping such that its victim has the shortest air gap

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        Pure water is a terrible conductor, but water with dissolved ions is a pretty good conductor, and that’s mostly (maybe always, since things like Sodium an Potassium ions tend to be pretty important in various processes, though IANAB so maybe there are exceptions) the water inside living beings.

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          More like an ok conductor, but yea that’s what I meant with the blood (and whatever other ways water exists in our body). Though even pure water is more conductive than air by orders or magnitude.

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      yes, but it’s extremely complicated and bulky. first, you have to have a naked ape. then that ape has to invent science and modern technology. then it has to build an electric grid, and then eventually this becomes possible…

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    This is why stegosaurus should have waited for backup from the council before trying to arrest T. Rex.

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    " Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence"

    But honestly, I think this is intuitive and reasonable so I accept it as factual.

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    “There is no evidence that this didn’t happen.”

    This line of reasoning is the same way religions “argue”.

    There is also no evidence that this did happen.

    So I assume that it’s wrong until undeniably proven otherwise by the scientific method.

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      On the one hand you are right, on the other hand, especially paleontology is basing their facts on very, very shaky evidence and a massive amount of extrapolation.

      So I assume that it’s wrong until undeniably proven otherwise by the scientific method.

      So you assume everything is wrong? Because in fact, that’s not how the scientific method works at all.

      Outside of the very few fields that are pure and untouched by reality, like e.g. maths, there are no proofs, and certainly no undeniable proofs in science. Everything is “just” a theory and is used until proven wrong or otherwise refined. Usually a theory with a decent amount of evidence, but nothing is proven beyond deniability in science. That’s religion you are thinking about.

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      Doesn’t this also result in archaeologists saying everything was for spiritual reasons or that we don’t know what it was for? Like sure, I don’t know exactly how it was used but I can take a pretty good guess! This isn’t even limited to dildos either.

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        One of my favorite stories about this was from an archeological investigation in housing where they found several homes where knives had been stored in the rafters of the house and all of the men in charge we debating on the religious explanations about how weapons and knives would have had to have been reveared to have been stored so high in the home. One of the female grad students walked in and looked at them all like they were idiots and said it was to keep them away from the children. There are no records of what the men had said in reaction.

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      Huh. I don’t quite remember this Nasreddin Hoca story growing up, but I’m sure the snake says something really clever