A homeowner in Goodyear, Arizona is locked in a dispute with his homeowner’s association over his practice of distributing free cold water from his driveway.
A homeowner in Goodyear, Arizona is locked in a dispute with his homeowner’s association over his practice of distributing free cold water from his driveway.
What do you think a city or state is? Gotta have rules, good luck living in a neighborhood without a HOA when the fat shirtless guy next door turns his front lawn into an open air trash heap.
Plenty of places don’t have HOAs, like my neighborhood. We just bitch at each other. If things got really bad you could just call the city.
As a European with HOA’s I would like to ask how you if you’ve seen how people handle things outside of “freedom land”
My city has bylaws for that sort of thing. I can’t let my grass turn into a jungle either. That’s also a bylaw. Shoveling snow into the street? Guess what, bylaw.
Don’t need an HOA full of overbearing Karen’s to Lord over me about what color I painted my garage on top of the fairly loose bylaws that I also need to abide by.
At least with bylaws they’re enforced by public workers, not Karen from next door.
You guys are wrong. The city handles what overflows onto ITS property, they don’t care about your property. That’s what the HOA is for.
You can’t leave your trash on the sidewalk (city property) randomly, the city can’t do jack shit if some slob leaves his trash on his lawn.
Until rats set in. You guys comfortable leaving things degenerate to that level until the city acts?
You are the one who is clueless. My city absolutely will fine people for violating the upkeep laws. I know because I’ve been fined for grass before, and I know one of my neighbors had an abandoned, rotting car towed out of their driveway.
This is straight up not true in many places. Where I live they have a long list of things you can’t have in your yard, or in your yard for extended periods of time. They have a list of rules for the flora, maintenance, etc.
The only time your assumption is true is the inside of the house. They can’t do much there until it is a fire hazard, bio hazard, etc. , but that level of hoarding stuff is not common, and even then, there are limits to it before the city intervenes
I just picked a random US city out of thin air.
https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/2022/06/27/topeka-looks-cut-down-overgrown-grass-other-property-maintenance-code-violations/7614641001/
If they’re that concerned about how tall your grass is, I imagine they’ll also get involved if you let trash pile up.
That’s my point. They’ll do something when it’s three feet tall, but maybe I want the neighbor to cut it before it reaches that level?
No, that wasn’t your point. Now you’re moving the goal post. Your point was, and I quote,
Plus, the article explicitly states that the ordinance specifies 12 inches, not three feet.
You can keep digging your hole deeper, but it’s not going to support your claim. Your just wrong here, and one sign of a well adjusted adult is knowing when to admit they’re wrong.
They don’t care about your property, right. No one wants 12 inch grass.
It is you who is wrong. The HOAs exist to make people respect human living conditions, not the contractor-grade specs the city enforces for its purposes.
Try to picture a city with just the city rules enforced. All right, it’s 1 foot tall grass, not three feet. OK, it’s three trash bags with rats, not 12.
That enough? Of course it isn’t.
The grass matters to the city when it overflows onto its property. One hopes that in the vast majority of cases, people will maintain their property a bit better on their own. The HOA just makes it possible to ensure that. The vast majority of HOAs aren’t PITAs, only the extreme stories make it to the news.
If you like your lawn 1 foot tall with trash bags everywhere, move to where there is no HOA. I realize there are fewer and fewer trailer parks these days, but that’s not my fault.
I don’t know how to put it simpler.
" Your just wrong here, and one sign of a well adjusted adult is knowing when to admit they’re wrong."
It’s “you’re”, and I’m not, and take your own advice.
So are you just trying to be an ass here, or are you genuinely just so invested that you can’t see you’re arguing in bad faith?
The town/city is suppose to handle that.
Only at a certain point. Maybe I want it handled before?
Maybe mind your own business?
That’s my next door neighbour!
Sorry, I’ll wear a shirt next time.