• jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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    22 hours ago

    We don’t think either. We’re just a chemical soup that tricked ourselves to believe we think.

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      7 hours ago

      Machines and algorithms don’t have emergent properties, organic things like us do.

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        6 hours ago

        The current AI chats are emergent properties. The very fact that I looks like it’s talking with us despite being just probabilistic models of a neural network is an emergent effect. The neural network is just a bunch of numbers.

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        7 hours ago

        There are emergent properties all the way down to the quantum level, being “organic” has nothing to do with it.

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          You’re correct, but that wasn’t the conversation. I didn’t say only organic, and I said machines and algorithms don’t. You chimed in just to get that “I’m right” high, and you are the problem with internet interactions.

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            There is really no fundamental difference between an organsim or a sufficently complicated machine and there is no reason why the later shouldn’t have the possibilty of emergent properties.

            and you are the problem with internet interactions.

            Defensive much? Looks you’re the one with the problem.

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      21 hours ago

      A pie is more than three alphanumerical characters to you. You can eat pie, things like nutrition, digestion, taste, smell, imagery all come to mind for you.

      When you hear a prompt and formulate a sentence about pie you don’t compile a list of all words and generate possible outcomes ranked by statistical approximation to other similar responses.