• moriquende@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    Precisely, and rent-seeking is what’s not happening here, as nobody is looking to profit. People are only looking to keep their private information private.

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      12 hours ago

      Your gaslighting game is shit. Like Copyright lawsuits aren’t half the news being cheered by AI haters. Not a single privacy lawsuit in sight. How stupid do you think people are?

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        11 hours ago

        Assuming you’re right, it’s still not rent-seeking. If I believe that AI companies should be made liable for breaking copyright, I’m not personally receiving any monetary benefit. Where’s my rent?

        It’s about principle. It’s unfair that a company can steal data and profit from it. Simple as that.

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          11 hours ago

          Yes, I’m sure very few AI haters will be getting any rent personally. They are supporting rent-seeking by others. I’m sure many do so out of “principle”, or as it would be more commonly phrased, out of ideological dogmatism. I’m a left/liberal guy. I want a society that works for everybody.

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            9 hours ago

            A society that works for everybody is a fair society. Stealing intellectual property and user confidential data is not fair.

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              9 hours ago

              And some people will say that a fair society should give back to the King what those revolutionaries stole by creating republics everywhere. You think of your ideology as the one true definition of fairness, justice, and whatever. That’s just ordinary dogmatism.

              As far as I’m concerned, society should be ordered to fulfill everyone’s material needs; food, shelter, health care, and such things. Otherwise, people should not be interfered with. They should be free to make the best of life. That is simply incompatible with rent-seeking.

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                9 hours ago

                I’m sure you’ll be the first one to provide public access to your private photos and texts so everyone can check how to improve their lives with those valuable resources.

                Amazing how propaganda by the rich is so successful in making people believe it’s not them who are the parasites.

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                  8 hours ago

                  I draw some quiet satisfaction from feeling that I’ve had a positive influence on the world. I really don’t understand why some are so outraged that they may have benefitted some stranger without payment.

                  Amazing how propaganda by the rich is so successful in making people believe it’s not them who are the parasites.

                  Look… You believe society should pay money to property owners. Who owns most of the property? Rich people. You have your ideology but don’t treat me like an idiot.

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                    7 hours ago

                    You put those words in my mouth, I never said I believe that. I’ve been saying that each person owns their data and have the right to decide what it can be used for.

                    It’s a separate discussion but: that rich people own most of the assets has a lot to do with the fact they steal and use stolen resources to appropriate more resources. It’s parasitic and needs to stop.

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                    8 hours ago

                    Hi there. I’m an artist who gives away everything for free because I don’t personally think it’s ethical to profit from pure human emotional expression. I also don’t think it’s ethical for some faceless corporation to profit from my art. I will ABSOLUTELY fight against my art being used to train AI models, but I have ABSOLUTELY no desire to profit. In fact, I have the opposite desire.

                    So tell me exactly what is rent-seeking?