Now that Bandcamp has had huge layoffs, what about an opensource, Fediverse-friendly replacement? What can a FOSS product bring to the community and do better than Bandcamp?

  • Discoverability?
  • Broader selection of payments platforms? Direct transfer to avoid processors? (I’m ignorant about the processing system, plus international considerations)
  • Ease of spinning up (SaaS?)
  • Content deliverability (on the fly transcode from sourced FLAC or WAVs? Rich video/multi track audio?)
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      An artist posting on LinkedIn is what inspired my post. But I suppose a for-profit private company is probably the solution to it.

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      “Hey why don’t we just copy a website that has 800k daily visitors?”

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    For me the most important criterias are:

    • ownership: I buy, I get to download (re-download) the files and use then how ever I please
    • astists get a fair share: I want to maximize the share of the money I’ve spent going to the artists, and I would like the platform to be transparent, showing me with each purchase how much goes to the artitst for creating more art (if self-hosted by the artist herself/himself, this cost is then deduced)

    I personally don’t care for streaming.

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      I would challenge your definition of streaming. I host all my own music and I stream it all the time via Airsonic-advanced (though it does get cached - and it’s constantly downloading new podcast episodes). For me it’s just the level of accessibility I consider as “streaming”.

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    All of these ideas are great and all but at the end of the day I will be forced to use what ever the scene I am into decides is best and therefore I can find the biggest selection of music to buy.

    Currently band camp is the defacto for most releases (except for some idiotic vinyl only bullshit) within the scene I am into, but even if a great alternative is made if they don’t start selling the music I want on there then it’ll be impossible for me to use.

    I think as much effort to expose a band camp alternative to artists is needed as there is needed to create the thing so people and artists can come together in said place.

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    Wait, hear me out. Direct buy from artists using crypto. Then you don’t have to deal with payment processors.

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      Cryptoscam shill is shilling the cryptoscam.

      It’s amazing to me that anybody considers crypto"currency" to be a viable currency these days after all the failures of the (… uh … you know that “exchanges” are payment processors right? RIGHT!? …) ecosystem to the tune of now billions of dollars.

      But hey, you can at least send your funny money on a public ledger (for PRIVACY! LOL!) and have it get processed painfully slowly while contributing to more greenhouse gases than most medium-sized nations!

      There’s literally no downside!

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        You don’t need to use an exchange to get paid in crypto or use a crypto with a pubic ledger

        Monero is far more private than letting a credit card processor have your information. Ethereum doesn’t use mining anymore so the electricity used for it is less than paying with credit card. It also takes a few seconds to process.

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          So, let’s look over the first of your favourite funny money Ponzi schemes: Monero.

          Is this the Monero that people are increasingly certain is doing the digital equivalent of printing currency? (C.f. “Monerun” for details.) The Monero that has a single mining pool that’s within striking distance of pulling off a 50%+1 attack? That Monero? 'Cause that “privacy” you tout for it works both ways. Yes, user details are private … but so are the operator’s details so there’s no way of knowing what’s really going on under the covers. Like, I don’t know, say, “paper Monero”…

          Doesn’t even sound slightly scammy. Not in the slightest. I know I’d trust them with monetary matters!

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            I just looked up Monerun

            Monero is not doing “printing currency”. Some exchanges that promise to pay you monero may not hold it. That’s the same what your bank does. The bank seldom has enough dollar bills to pay all of its depositors money.

            But again, this is between an exchange and its customers. You can gasp use another exchange and withdraw your money immediately after using it

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              Monero is not doing “printing currency”.

              And you know this because…?

              Right. You don’t. Because Monero is obstinately opaque in its operations. You’re taking it on faith (or, rather, you’re trying to make sure you’re not the bottom of the pyramid when everything goes to Hell).

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                That’s not how that works, you prove your claim that monero has coins created in excess of what the protocol allowed. You can’t just make shit up and expect me to debunk it

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                  The system is set up so it cannot be proved until it’s too late. Like a hi-tech Madoff scheme. It has zero transparency. None.

                  In the absence of transparency, the only safe and sane assumption is “a scam is in operation”.

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          Yes. The scam has mutated. All scams do. It’s still a Ponzi scheme and suckers like you are still trying to fill out the bottom of the pyramid so that you’re not the one holding the bag when it collapses.

          When.

          Not if.

          Go shill crypto on that distributed messaging system specifically set up to shill crypto, dude. You’ll find more receptive suckers there.

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          And now let’s address your second favourite crypto-Ponzi: Ethereum. This would be the Ethereum whose “smart” contracts are so fucking dumb that it’s almost routine to find stories of them being owned by kiddies? (Ask Hope Lend, Fantom Foundation, Balancer, Huobi, Remitano, and a cast of thousands.) Or would this be the Ethereum that filled to the brim with suspect entities like TrueUSD/$TEURO (which they laughably claim aren’t related despite both coming from the same address), Milady NFTs (or, let’s face it, ANY fucking NFT!), or any number of other rug pullers and such? Or are you talking the Ethereum that is so lazy an implementation that people trivially write snipe bots to manipulate values for things? Or are you talking the Ethereum so fucking lax (and convoluted in actual use) that even its founder got himself Twitter-hacked to wind up draining people’s accounts dry from a scam?

          Yeah. Absolutely the org I’d trust with finance. Great suggestion, Sparky? Why not just resurrect Capone and tell people to put cash in this bag he’s holding out?

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            Ethereum is not an organization, you don’t need to use NFTs or smart contracts if you don’t want to

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              Ethereum is not an organization […]

              Right. Ethereum is not an “organization”. It’s several organizations (like the Ethereum Foundation, say) with suspicious overlap in membership (like Vitalik Buterin, say) whose top 100 ETH addresses (out of about what? a quarter million? a third of a million?) own ~40% of the ETH making them one motherfucking powerful voting bloc. (Even Bitcoin, with some whales that are making people look askance at it, has only about 14% held in the top 100 addresses!)

              And this doesn’t even begin to address the clusterfuck that is the enormous problem of PoS having “the rich get richer” built into its very core.

              …you don’t need to use NFTs or smart contracts if you don’t want to

              Agreed. And indeed you don’t need to use any cryptoscam bullshit at all. Which is what most people do. Because most people aren’t clueless idiots and can actually smell a scam. The cryptoshills are obvious scammers at the level of Nigerian Princes-in-Exile!

              Here’s a suggestion for you, Sparky. Why don’t you toddle off back to nostr where the rest of your cryptobro buddies and their victims hang out instead of trying to infect yet another domain with your criminal scam?