A Delaware animal shelter is working to find new homes for thousands of chicks that were left abandoned in a U.S. Postal Service truck for three days.
Delaware’s Department of Agriculture said it received a call earlier this month from USPS saying the Postal Service had an “undeliverable box of baby birds.” About 12,000 chicks had been shipped from the Pennsylvania-based Freedom Ranger Hatchery to farms across the country.
State agricultural officials say that when they found the chicks at a USPS distribution center in Delaware, around 4,000 were dead.
Before you dislike this comment I want you to consider the objective logic here.
This situation, and literally billions like it are happening every year for one single reason, people enjoy (not need) consuming animal products. As a vegan I am actively trying to stop these situations, if you are not vegan, what are doing for these animals? What are you doing for the billions of others that die each day in horrendous ways?
If you truly care, consider the bigger picture, and consider your own hand in it as a consumer of the product of violence.
These facts might be harsh, and I don’t intend to harm you, I hope you can see that these are just facts, not insults.
Modern factory farm chickens only live to about 2-3 years, even in good conditions. Sorry, but their lives just aren’t that important to me compared to everything else in the world. To me, these facts aren’t harsh, they’re just reality. We have bred chickens to be disposable and used as food. So how can I be upset that they’re treated as a disposable food source?
It’s a matter of opinion. You are convinced this practice is horrible and evil. I, and a large portion of the population, just don’t see it that way. We see it the same as farming. You grow something, then you harvest it. I’m all for better quality of life for livestock, but only because it leads to better quality meat. Ethics don’t really factor into it because I don’t see anything unethical about it.
I get the feeling that you think if everyone knew how the sausage was made, we’d all stop eating it and demand change. But we already know how the sausage is made, and it’s delicious.
If I break down your first point it’s basically:
To that I will say that I too have more important things to care about, there are so many important things in my life that absolutely demand my attention. Yet I wash my dishes, spend time on Lemmy, play video games, sit in the toilet longer than I should, etc. The argument that this isn’t your #1 priority and so it doesn’t matter is illogical because we all do a thousand unimportant things every day. Rather I suspect that you have a different reason, maybe you consider this issue completely worthless? Maybe you just don’t want to face the consequences of caring about it? Idk.
As for the shortness and “purpose” of their lives. By your logic children that were born in concentration camps in the Holocaust are just as worthless. They would probably die just as fast and their “owners” only let them exist as part of the final solution.
As for the second paragraph. The thing is, that it’s not actually a matter of opinion, but rather a matter of logical consistency. You see, people care about their pets. People care about animal welfare. And if you ask the average person, is it okay to eat dog meat? Is it okay to grow puppies and slaughter them because you like puppy steak? Most people would easily tell you that it’s not okay. But if you ask them what’s the difference between a dog and a cow, they tend to not give any logical reasons. They say that dogs can understand better, or have more emotional connections, and all kinds of things that are scientifically and anecdotally proven false. You could say, I don’t care about animals. Or you could say, I care about animals. But when you start picking and choosing based on historical farming practices, you are missing logic and instead applying personal beliefs. As for ethics, it actually does relate to it a lot. When we’re talking about ethics, we’re talking about all kinds of things, not just humans. But even if we focus on humans, as humans our ability to empathize with other humans is also inherent to our ability to empathize with other animals. A very clear example of it is the historical abuse of black people. They were often compared to animals, and they even had black people zoos. And that’s not zoos where black people go to visit it, but rather zoos where white people go to see black people in cages. Historically, comparing humans to animals has been a very common strategy to de-humanize certain races or religions in order to abuse or murder and commit genocide towards them. You can see it with black people, you can see it with Jewish people, you can see it with so many different races and religions across the world and across many, many different periods of history. So because throughout all of our human history, animals have always been, in society’s eye, inferior beings meant to serve our purposes. We could always just say"this person is an animal" and essentially do to them what ever we want as they “server a purpose” or are a “pest”
And as for your last point, I find it a bit insulting that you consider me to be someone so delusional that I would ignore basic facts about the world. As someone who’s been a vegan for a very long time, I am very much aware of the fact that people can be aware of what’s going on and even sometimes face it for a while before giving up and going back. The sad thing is that people are not as strong-willed as they think they are sometimes, and ethics are not the thing that drives most people. And I know that a lot of people know how the sausage is made and still find it delicious. It doesn’t make the sausage ethical.
you don’t know what others need
True but kind of removing the context of my message. The context is that the average person in a developed country does not need to consume any animal products to live a healthy life. This is factual based on our best scientific understanding of nutrition and the options present for the average person in a developed country.
you can’t know what others need
I need my chicky nuggies 😩
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What a despicable way to respond to a well reasoned and compassionate comment.
I get that inner reflection is difficult, I really do. But if someone’s message hits you in a particularly poignant way, responding with cruelty just doesn’t seem helpful for anyone involved. I hope you’re able to grow past it and hold a mirror to yourself.
Look, horrible people who understand, accept, and celebrate atrocities always have and always will exist. These are tiny percentages of society. Are you really that horrible of a person? Or maybe you are just so deep in denial that you go for a distraction like childish insults that help you avoid facing reality? Or maybe just a troll?
In any case, I will not engage with you any further. Please reflect on your own views, actions, and words.