• archonet@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Maybe be the change you want to see in the world instead of bitching, then.

    edit: go ahead and keep downvoting me, when the right does finally manage a coup they’ll be the only ones with any guns you stupid motherfuckers. For now, the 2nd amendment is your right – you want to forgo it until they take it away from you (and only you), be my guest.

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      when the right does finally manage a coup they’ll be the only ones with any guns you stupid motherfuckers

      Believe it or not, the US military has many guns.

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          The point here is that civilians aren’t going to defeat the US military, full stop. Whether sane people have guns or fascists have guns, only the military matters

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              Might wanna check the actual combat statistics there bud. Shit Vietnam was also a professional, well-supplied army with a decade of combat experience against the French and massive infrastructure advantages.

              This is home turf, not foreign soil that’s attempting to be occupied peacefully. Plus, you’d have 50% of a country, give or take, readily willing to turn you in or attack you themselves, and 0 logistics infrastructure.

              It’s amazing to me this take is still common with people when it’s so easily laughed at.

              If you wanna go hide in the woods with your buddies, you can do that without trying to overthrow the government.

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                I was responding to your previous point that a standing military is all that matters against an occupied civilian force. I don’t think that really bears up to scrutiny in historical terms.

                Also, I don’t know where you got off thinking I’m trying to LARP as a militia member, but nice strawman with absolutely zero background to support that conclusion…

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                  I don’t think that really bears up to scrutiny in historical term

                  Then, frankly, you’re wrong.

                  Also, I don’t know where you got off thinking I’m trying to LARP as a militia member

                  it was a generalized “you”

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                    Then, frankly, you’re wrong.

                    Cool, but you could have just said that initially without being kind of an asshole.

                    it was a generalized “you”

                    Well since you said it to me, how else was I supposed to take that.

                    Anyways, not mad at you. Was more just making a joke initially, but maybe in bad faith. Which, by the way, I was more than willing to admit.

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              We absolutely had the military capability to wipe Vietnam and Afghanistan off the goddamn map and delete their populations and wildlife from existence if ordered to do so. The politicians back home said no, and made us withdraw. We have thousands of nuclear reentry vehicles standing ready, and we are trained to set condition 1SQ when ordered, no questions asked, without knowing the target package. I challenge you to survive a hundred Hiroshimas per warhead, times several thousand.

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                See my other comments below. I’m not looking to have an argument about nuclear war with a nuclear submariner. When you’re a hammer, everything looks like a nail and whatnot.

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          Military has equally as many progressives, moderates and centrists who absolutely will not tolerate these people. Source: I’m a submariner who works with nuclear weapons. You try something nutty, we can and will put your face into the concrete, no matter your political affiliation. Basics of the Personnel Reliability Program, the Command Managed Equal Opportunity Program, and Nuclear Weapons Security.

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      So… go buy a gun and shoot him myself? No thanks, voting is my weapon of choice and I use it like a machine gun