This is genocide by the book. After almost 2 decades of being kept poor & isolated, comes in an ultra modern army to do exactly what?
I’m German and anti Hamas.
Where’s the fight against Hamas taking place, btw? There should be footage of destroyed Hamas stuff or some dead Hamas Soldiers to be seen, or am i missing something?
Israel has been bombarding for days
How would you be able to tell the difference between a dead hamas soldier and a dead civilian? They don’t carry weapons all the time, you know, and terrorist organizations don’t exactly wear uniforms.
I think fighting terrorism and warning citizens before bombing is not genocide. Telling citizens they are, in fact, should not run (hamas does that), is closer to genocide.
Actual process of getting rid of terrorists is not exactly something anyone should require to trust someone, but you can check a lot of videos they publish of destroying specific buildings in Gaza.
Be sure to also check the videos of Palestinians killing innocents left and right in Israel. They recorded those themselves.
Bear with me a bit, if you will. There’s a sharp point, at least I think so.
If you’ve never lived on the ground for a disaster like a hurricane or tornado, it’s worse than any picture or video can depict. I wept in the street, on my knees, the morning after Hurricane Ivan. It was 10AM, a cool, leafless autumn morning, but it had been summer 12-hours earlier. 10 of those hours was darkness and that nonstop goddamned freight train sound.
“My god, what happened to my new city?” Had no notion of the blast radius, all I could see was what I could see. Watched the blue fireworks of exploding transformers all night. Still didn’t hit me. Thinking I was on my own, I wept a bit when the Guard rolled in. “We’re getting help?! What? Why? How?”
After living though Ivan, I cried my eyes out seeing what happened to my neighbors in southern Mississippi after Katrina. And then I went and saw for myself. My poor words cannot do justice.
My father-in-law, after picking up a pair of Bronze Stars in Iraq, came home and fought his way through to save those people. They sawed fucking houses in half to open the roads. This old white man was so fond of his memories, showing us pictures of the little black kids they gave salvaged Walmart bikes to. He looked like a proud papa. And then he disintegrated.
He was fine after Iraq, held it together. His Katrina PTSD led him to leave his wife of 32-years and ignore his only child, blew his family apart.
And here’s the tip of the spear:
This is an order of magnitude worse. This isn’t some blameless natural disaster. These aren’t first-world country folks, cranking up the gennies, sharing what they got with anyone in need, pulling together in the face of tragedy. This is a modern nation state purposefully and with malice aforethought conducting genocide on a weaker neighbor. National Guard ain’t rolling in for these folks. They’re truly on their own.
Damn bro I feel that. Thanks for sharing 😔
Way to make this about you
Way to make this about you
You’re really, really stupid if that’s what you got from it.
It’s illegal to share experiences now?
They shared theirs so you can have context on how bad the situation is on gaza. Chill on your projections bro.
The single downvote on each of the replies are you, aren’t they?
Genocide
If Israel’s genocidal campaign is actually halted (likely temporarily), the lingering effects of this bombing campaign will continue to claim lives. There will be an increase in premature deaths, at least until Israel decides to complete its final solution. Weapons manufacturers and those who use their products aren’t known for “green” initiatives.
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Fuck Israel for trying to defend against terrorism you mean?
Just ask yourself - if Iran did this to an Israeli city ‘in defense of the people of Gaza’, who would you be saying to fuck?
I’ve been saying fuck Israel for years. They’ve been tearing innocent families out of their homes to occupy their land for their entire existence. No fucking wonder they got radicalized and fight back. It’s the same story with the US and Iran man, they helped create all the terrorists that attack them.
Did what exactly?
Look at the pictures in the link. If that was an Israeli city hit by Iran, who would be at fault? Now they are actually of Gaza. Whose fault is it in reality? If you didn’t answer Israel to one of those two questions, then you hold that Israel can do no wrong.
If no one would’ve done terrorism on October 7th, no one would do anything like you see on a photo today. And, oh, how much more would you be upset if Israel would do attacks without a warning, just like hamas does, I can’t imagine.
If you have balls to blame Israel for the existence of “kill all Jews” in Palestinians’ doctrine, you are out of your mind.
Group A is angry. It shoots missles and kills innocent civilians. Group B states “This will not stand! We must defeat group A and put an end to their killing of innocent civilians!” Group B then shoots missles, but instead of just killing group A, they kill a bunch more innocent civilians. On that last group of civilians, who is to blame for their death? In abstract it should be the ones shooting the missles.
You might be tempted to say it was group A’s fault for shooting the first batch of missles, thinking I am referring to Hamas. That is why I made up the (hopefully) hypothetical scenario that group A is Israel and group B is Iran. All I want to get across is those that shoot missles and kill innocents REGARDLESS OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES are to blame for the death they cause.
Group B is unrelated so the whole thing is unrelated.
I’m not proposing to remove all blame from Israel. But its actions are within adequate frame, and it can be investigated and held accountable. This never applies to Palestinians, they won’t be prosecuted and will proceed with terrorism if not stopped.
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So far a lot of the news coverage on here about the israel-palestine conflict is from aljazeera. Why is that?
I would imagine because in the west there is a ton of pressure to side with Israel no matter what, to the point people are losing their jobs for showing any support for Palestine or being critical of Israels actions.
Thanks for the information. I know this conflict has been one of the most controversial and politically confusing wars ever. I guess it’s hard for people at large news sites to write about it.
And I’ve noticed their before and after photos show a before of the suburbs and any after photos showing the city. Cheap tricks. Not that I doubt the main message, but it cheapens the integrity.
Because Lemmy is just as hell-bent on making Israel look like the only bad guy in that conflict as Aljazeera is.
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Reminds me of Mariupol.
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Israel is paying for these destroyed apartments, right?
On the contrary, they already said that once they’re done destroying whatever is left, they will stop providing anything to Gaza.
They’ll probably still keep up the air, sea and land blockades though, so good luck to anyone else trying to help.
Paying to knock them down or refurbish them for Israeli settlers once they’re done and shrunk Gaza. This is all the long game of Israel finally paying off. The constant stick pokes finally got a response they could use to justify the genocide they’ve always wanted.
Even more disgusting is so much of the world is doing fuck all AGAIN. So many times we’ve seen similar circumstances play out to the same end and every time those we could do something don’t.
It seems the only solution to the conflict is the most inhumane, and both sides know this. Maybe the conflict is better than the solution.
Would it be a a final solution of sorts? Sounds familiar
They also unironically have been using “the Palestinian Question”
So damn infuriating
Maybe the conflict is better than the solution.
Please expound.
If only genocide can resolve the conflict, I’d be happier with the conflict as is. (Unlike all those facists downvoting my comment)
