Their kids died after buying drugs on Snapchat. Now the parents are suing::Suit claims app features like disappearing messages and geolocating users make kids easy targets for dealers

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    Suing Snapchat won’t fix the environment that led to their daughter desiring drugs, sadly.

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      I think it’s a bit easy to blame the environment when almost every kid is going to test that kind of thing at some point in their teens. Watching your children AND regulating snapchat surely can coexist

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        when almost every kid is going to test that kind of thing at some point in their teens.

        How did you come to this conclusion?

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          Being around teenagers in the last decade pretty much leads to this conclusion.

          The number of people I knew who didn’t do some kind of drugs in high school (grad 2017) was lower than the number that did, and I went to the known “upper middle class white people” school.

          This day and age has led to teens increasingly seek escapism and other, less healthy coping mechanisms

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            I work in K12. The amount of kids who are trying drugs at a younger age is massively higher than when I was in high school 20 years ago.

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              Yep. It’s crazy and not in a good way. 20 years ago the edgy kids smoked pot and not much worse. Now there’s kids literally doing cocaine in bathrooms of high schools. Pot is not only normalized, it’s almost encouraged among teenagers now.

              I’m a pothead to an extreme degree and I keep telling kids to not be like me.

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                I had kids doing cocaine in our high school bathrooms 25 years ago, which is why anecdotes are unreliable for sense-making.

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                  Exactly, the 1980s existed and some of us were alive then. I was too young to see coke in high school as I started in 1989 but older siblings absolutely did.

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                  Fair, and I’m not saying that it didn’t happen, but I’d bet it was less people than are doing it now. What we can all probably agree on is that high schoolers doing coke is bad and we’d like that number to trend down, not up.

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          pretty much every kid in my high school was experimenting with drugs 20 years ago. we all smoked weed at the very least, lots of kids did coke, acid. ecstasy was crazy popular. this was way before fentanyl though.

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    The night he died, Alexander had told his parents that he had been taking Oxycontin he got online, and that he wanted help. Neville and her husband immediately called a rehab facility and made plans to take him there the following day, but didn’t think to take the pills away.

    Clearly Snapchats fault

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    It sucks their kids died but it is more their fault than Snapchat.

    You can’t blame the postman for delivering weed, it is just another package to them. And by the same token if someone seeks out drugs that’s on them.

    Legalise drugs.

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        Better drugs, more accountability, better regulations, better education, stronger supports funded by the Revenue from drugs.

        How is this news to you?

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              Dude you were replying to seems convinced criminalization is the way to go, despite all the evidence to the contrary. Like 120 years worth (give or take) of prohibition in the US, and the drug problem has only gotten worse. If dude doesn’t want to see that evidence, dude won’t.

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          Because I don’t live in a country where drugs are rampantly abused like a past time? It’s a good thing you know?

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            How’s the weather is make believe land?

            Drug abuse and drug use are not synonymous. Most people who use drugs use them as part of their life and don’t have dependency issues. So who cares if they use them

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              Been 3 hours and he still hasn’t answered lul. Bet he Googled it and found out it is rampant.

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              India, yes drugs exist here and yes I have had them. But for a country of 1 billion+ you will very rarely find articles about people OD’ing the way you do in other countries because that culture is not here. It is present in few specific states like Punjab but not a country wide thing.

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        It said the drug she bought wasn’t what was advertised and contained a lethal amount of fentanyl. Legalizing drugs will allow people to get what is advertised and users are able to seek help for addiction etc. Users are going to use regardless if its legal or not. So being able to get help for addiction and buy it safely can significantly reduce the number of unnecessary deaths.

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        Street drugs are cut with nasty shit that kills people. Legal drugs would be regulated and not cut with the nasty shit that kills people. It’s pretty simple.

        Also, if people’s lives and ability to get a good job aren’t fucked by going to jail for using drugs, they are more likely to want to eventually get clean so they can get one of those good jobs.

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          I think people miss the point of drug abuse, most addicts are suffering from some kind of trauma, yes, we shouldn’t put addicts in jail, but we have to find another approach.

          I was in the “make all drugs legal” but that’s just another can of worms

          there’s no easy fix, we must treat addicts like we would any mental illness. I spent most of my 20’s in and out of jails, I never hurt anyone but myself, and was treated like an animal.

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            I, personally, believe that everyone should have the right to their own consciousness and the ability to alter it. That should be the one thing that nobody can take away from you. There are many functional addicts even ones on harder drugs, and they aren’t hurting anybody. They would be hurting themselves less if they had access to clean and regulated drugs.

            I do agree that we should have resources and tools for people to help get clean. Most people people don’t want to do drugs forever, it’s a phase in most people’s lives, but if they do want that, they should be allowed to. Nobody is forced to be a productive member of society or be successful. Our time here is short, nobody asked to be here, and the one thing we should be allowed full control over is what is in between our eyes.

            That being said, I do agree that treating it like a mental illness can be the right thing to help someone if they are struggling, and I appreciate your addition to the conversation, very much.

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    Lmao, what? They might as well sue phone manufacturers for giving kids access to internet and app stores where they can install apps that enables drug dealers to reach kids or whatever

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      Perhaps SnapChat files a counter suit on the parents for buying their kid a smartphone, paying for service, and not putting parental controls on the device to keep them from using apps that they don’t want their kid accessing

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        Not much of a counter suit. It’s legal to buy your kid a smartphone and it’s legal to not put parental controls on it.

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    I think I saw somebody selling drugs in a park next to a playground. We should forbid parks with playgrounds because they make it easy to sell drugs to kids.

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      Yeah, nobody gets mad at the playground’s security guard who sleeps on the job and refuses to tell the drug dealers to leave. 100% of blame rightfully goes to the parents!

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    I am conflicted on this one. On one hand, yeah they’re just a platform, and realistically these kids would just go to another messaging service instead, but it also feels like they’re asleep at the wheel when it comes to investigating user reports of abuse.

    It’s sort of an all social media thing, because I’ve reported posts selling drugs on FB marketplace too and they ignored them after review.

    They quote one of the families in the article reporting a drug dealers account and Snapchat taking no action for months. I’d be willing to bet moderation is an afterthought and likely understaffed for the sheer volume of content on the app.

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    They should also sue whoever invented language because the kids used language to communicate with the drug dealers.