• JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    Didn’t the state own all the corporations in the USSR? How would that not be state and corporate power combined?

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      6 hours ago

      There were no corporations in the ussr. There were business, not multi regional conglomerates.

      And even then the purpose of a corporation is to profit. That is it’s sole goal.

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        3 hours ago

        That doesn’t change that the powers of governance and commerce were in the same hands. Changing what you call it is just semantics.

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          2 hours ago

          Intent is incredibly important. In all systems trade happens. The idea that capitalism=markets is incredibly stupid, equally stupid is the idea that all work is done under a corporation for the sole purpose of making someone else rich, as you have suggested here.

          The problem is not that things are done for the sake of the state or not, but what purpose things are done for. In fascism the state is owned by corporate interests, the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. Work is done solely to make those corporate owners privately rich, nothing more. Each system is built openly for class oppression.

          Even in the most brain rotted American views the ussr is nothing like that. You’d have to be a fascist or brain damaged to even try to argue it.

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            6 minutes ago

            the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top.

            This is the part that matters. This is also true for Soviet communism or really any real life communism. The instruments are different, but the song is the same.