Out of curiosity, I tried looking up info on the attack/fatality rate of pitbulls outside of the USA (assuming Pitbulls are dangerous because the culture of the USA views them as such and this they are raised to be) but couldn’t find much.
The only one I found quickly was that they gave a high incidence of attacks in Japan as well, but the owners tend to be Yakuza or other gang members, so yeaaahhh…
People calling for the culling of all pit bulls would be hypocritical if they don’t also call for the culling of all German Shepherds. It’s a difference in attack rate of 21% for pit bulls and 18% for German shepherds so pretty close in “danger” (https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/dog-attack-statistics-breed/)
I doubt they would though as I believe most just have a bias against pitties.
German shepherds shouldn’t be bred at all. They have genetic defects that make them suspect to certain illnesses, such as hip defects. Don’t buy them. They will suffer and you will have an expensive vet bill.
Same exact thing can be said for golden retrievers and labradors. Honestly, most bred for purpose/ pure bred dogs.
Generations of inbreeding will do that to most mammals.
One of the healthiest dogs you can own is a mutt—ancillary (and anecdotal), but I found my cat in a dumpster as a kitten. She’ll be 10 in April and is still as feisty as when I found her.
Legal measures against pitbulls often are rooted in redline type bills to continue to create laws that punish particular races or ethnicities.
Pit Bulls were and are often used for underground dog fights, and thus became associated with gangs and inner-city crime. That’s a ridiculously small portion of pit bull owners, but laws about pit bulls give one more tool for cops to over-police black and hispanic neighborhoods in particular.
I don’t really have an opinion on pit bulls, I’ve owned dogs, wolves and many animals and I do believe different breeds have different personalities and genetic influences, it would be ridiculous to deny it because WE MADE THEM THIS WAY, so yes, pitties and german shepherds and many others can easily be raised wrong and come out dangerous compared to say, golden retrievers or other “gentle” breeds that are going to be a lot more passive even when raised wrong. These are preconditions, they are influences. But the problem is with lack of education about how to raise animals, puppy mills and overbreeding, poor training, and the handful of irresponsible and abusive owners who fuck up everything for the rest of us.
I hate it here.
edit: not sorry at all if reasonable and nuanced facts make you angry for some reason. That’s a skill issue. Learn more. Go outside, meet people, make some friends. This is an oddly triggering issue to some people, you need to learn to breath and think. I don’t care how sweet your dog is or if you got bit once, if you have deeply emotional opinions on this in either direction, congratulations, you’re being manipulated.
Left to their own devices pitties are harmless. In a loving and caring home, they are some of the most supporting docile animals I’ve ever been around. Even rescue pitties who have had horrible lives usually end up as proper babysitters without any substantial correction.
That said, a 50lb PB can hold on to a rope, be lifted off the ground and swung in circles without even breaking a sweat. Bite strength and passive muscle structure on those dogs are AMAZING. So if someone does make a PB decide they need to eat someone, they’re dangerous AF. But you really have to work hard to make them that way.
Shitty people raise shitty dogs. Other shitty people see this and want a dog that “looks badass” and proceed to raise more shitty dogs. Of course, nobody will step forward and tell you that they raised a shitty dog, so you really can’t properly study this in a large group experiment.
Don’t know much about this, but some experts have this to say on Pitbulls: https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/pets/are-pit-bulls-dangerous-experts-set-the-record-straight-on-these-lovable-dogs/ar-AA1nG7F5
Out of curiosity, I tried looking up info on the attack/fatality rate of pitbulls outside of the USA (assuming Pitbulls are dangerous because the culture of the USA views them as such and this they are raised to be) but couldn’t find much.
The only one I found quickly was that they gave a high incidence of attacks in Japan as well, but the owners tend to be Yakuza or other gang members, so yeaaahhh…
I recently watched an older Video by José on the matter. He goes into quite some detail in regards to the gene vs. holder aspect of it.
People calling for the culling of all pit bulls would be hypocritical if they don’t also call for the culling of all German Shepherds. It’s a difference in attack rate of 21% for pit bulls and 18% for German shepherds so pretty close in “danger” (https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/dog-attack-statistics-breed/)
I doubt they would though as I believe most just have a bias against pitties.
German shepherds shouldn’t be bred at all. They have genetic defects that make them suspect to certain illnesses, such as hip defects. Don’t buy them. They will suffer and you will have an expensive vet bill.
Same exact thing can be said for golden retrievers and labradors. Honestly, most bred for purpose/ pure bred dogs.
Generations of inbreeding will do that to most mammals.
One of the healthiest dogs you can own is a mutt—ancillary (and anecdotal), but I found my cat in a dumpster as a kitten. She’ll be 10 in April and is still as feisty as when I found her.
It’s kinda shocking to see pictures of pre-1980 German Shepards next to modern ones. What the hell happened to their hips?
Humans happened. Show dogs, bred in certain characteristics that we thought made the breed.
There’s a great documentary from many years ago on how messed up show dogs are.
Legal measures against pitbulls often are rooted in redline type bills to continue to create laws that punish particular races or ethnicities.
Pit Bulls were and are often used for underground dog fights, and thus became associated with gangs and inner-city crime. That’s a ridiculously small portion of pit bull owners, but laws about pit bulls give one more tool for cops to over-police black and hispanic neighborhoods in particular.
I don’t really have an opinion on pit bulls, I’ve owned dogs, wolves and many animals and I do believe different breeds have different personalities and genetic influences, it would be ridiculous to deny it because WE MADE THEM THIS WAY, so yes, pitties and german shepherds and many others can easily be raised wrong and come out dangerous compared to say, golden retrievers or other “gentle” breeds that are going to be a lot more passive even when raised wrong. These are preconditions, they are influences. But the problem is with lack of education about how to raise animals, puppy mills and overbreeding, poor training, and the handful of irresponsible and abusive owners who fuck up everything for the rest of us.
I hate it here.
edit: not sorry at all if reasonable and nuanced facts make you angry for some reason. That’s a skill issue. Learn more. Go outside, meet people, make some friends. This is an oddly triggering issue to some people, you need to learn to breath and think. I don’t care how sweet your dog is or if you got bit once, if you have deeply emotional opinions on this in either direction, congratulations, you’re being manipulated.
I have had pitties for years
Left to their own devices pitties are harmless. In a loving and caring home, they are some of the most supporting docile animals I’ve ever been around. Even rescue pitties who have had horrible lives usually end up as proper babysitters without any substantial correction.
That said, a 50lb PB can hold on to a rope, be lifted off the ground and swung in circles without even breaking a sweat. Bite strength and passive muscle structure on those dogs are AMAZING. So if someone does make a PB decide they need to eat someone, they’re dangerous AF. But you really have to work hard to make them that way.
Shitty people raise shitty dogs. Other shitty people see this and want a dog that “looks badass” and proceed to raise more shitty dogs. Of course, nobody will step forward and tell you that they raised a shitty dog, so you really can’t properly study this in a large group experiment.