People Are Okay With Wind & Solar Installations In Their Neighborhoods, Studies Say::More neighborhoods than ever are accepting the role of solar and wind power installations near their homes and towns.
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Widespread personal installations won’t be sustainable in most situations. Instead, we should be working to create microgrids for higher resiliency and more efficient electricity transmission. While we’re at it, geothermal heat pumps should be installed in a similar microgrid method for more efficient energy consumption
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As I understand it, the efficiency of a wind turbine increases with blade size, so multiple smaller personal wind turbines are less efficient than fewer, larger turbines that serve a neighbourhood, as well as costing much more and using more overall resources.
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I find both solar panels and wind turbines to be quite beautiful and aesthetic when done at least half well. However turbines do have its issues with noise and shadows so I definitely wouldn’t want one close by.
My in-laws had a neighbor with a turbine for years and it could get really loud on a windy day. That said if I have to choose between coal and a little noise, I’d still choose the noise.
I think the issue with fossil fuels is that their damage is not as apparent as a 100meter tall bird smasher. Thats why this conflict is so complex.
I’m shocked people are fine with clean windmills and solar panels near their home and not dirty coal plants. If anything seeing clean energy just makes you think of a rich neighborhood just like a Tesla would.
Solar Plants were always the most expensive option in Sim City. Coal was the cheapest. It’s been engrained in us since our childhood.
Come to the UK, where its so popular with a particular demographic that the ruling party banned on shore wind farms (lifted as a month ago) as well as large solar installs on farming land, even if its low yield for crops. Pretty sure they only lifted the onshore wind farm ban because nobody bid in the last offshore wind farm auction.
https://news.sky.com/story/onshore-wind-farms-ban-to-be-eased-following-backbench-tory-pressure-12955304 https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/17/de-facto-ban-on-solar-farms-in-england-to-continue-therese-coffey-signals
This means little. People always say they are okay with it, in the abstract. Then when it’s time to get specific and build an actual wind or solar farm near them, suddenly it’s a big nuisance, harmful to the local ecology, etc.
Exactly. Every time a new windmill goes up in a residential area around here, there are protests and complaints about the noise, the repetitive shadow, the view, etc.
Those sound like legitimate complaints. I’d be pissed if the house that I bought ended up a much, much less pleasant place to live because of a 3rd party.
Windmills don’t belong in residential areas, just as coal power plants don’t, and solar farms in residential areas just seems like a waste of space.
People in the USA* pretty big detail to leave out of the title, this isn’t a global study.
I’m not from there but I wouldn’t have any problem with such installations as long as they’re done tastefully, so as to not affect the beauty of the land any more than what’s essential. Renewables are the way forward after all!
HOAs still place restrictions unfortunately. Perhaps not an outright ban in most places, but limited installations and possibly in not the best place on the house for solar production.
HOAs existing should be illegal
What a strange take, how do you organize or run the community without it? Everyone just does whatever without any coordination or some other type of model?
Interesting. In my country nobody wants to live next to windmills (I’m from the Netherlands). The sound and even the constant shadows falling over your house is said to be causing mental health issues.
Mind you, The Netherlands is a very densly populated country.
I’d say about 30% has solar on their roof though.
E: here’s a research that had been done by our government: It seems mostly in English, for those that want to read it.
https://www.rivm.nl/bibliotheek/rapporten/2020-0150.pdf
Conclusion seems to be that it cannot be said for certain that the sound of windmills are the sole reason for sleeplessness and mental health problems.
There’s been a German study and please don’t ask me to find the pdf but the basic comparison was between comparable installations in the north and in the east, major difference between those categories being whether they were owned by a local citizen coop or a big company from whoknowswhere.
Long story short: If the blade swooshing sounds like “cha-ching” it actually lulls people to sleep, while easterners have rather negative experience with companies from whoknowswhere coming in and suddenly owning stuff. The average is propbably somewhere in the middle, “eh not as nice like a river but way better than a highway in the distance”, focussing only on the sound, not associations with it.
As to shadowing though yes that can definitely be nasty. Luckily we have the science necessary to predict where the sun will be and can build the windmills such that moving shadow don’t hit homes at all, or only for a minute a couple of days a year or such.
Totally unrelated, but which theoretical field would the science of knowing where the shadow falls be? As in, if you can only hire one scholar to do the plans?
I would say astronomy or geography, but I guess a scholar of photon physics might work?
The sun’s position is astronomy the rest is engineering. I guess if you want to go really fancy you could involve horology.
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please don’t give them ideas
I love driving by a wind farm. The wind turbines make me feel really peaceful.
Not sure if I wanna live next to a wind farm, but solar is 100% okay
All the Hicks out here in upstate NY defeated two of them… one was a wind turbine, the other was a grid battery facility… Which they justified by saying it would start a fire… These were Lithium iron phosphate…
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Fuck people. Fuck it all. We don’t get to be ok as the world burns so some ass clown gets a mega yacht