Yes this will be brought up again and again but everytime it falls it is a win for us, i think it is important to remebemer that. We need to share information and stand up next time too. it can also become better in the future, Swedish FRA (like USA´s NSA) says e2ee is important and urges people to use it. Netherlands inteligent agency says that chatcontrol harms national security. FBI and CISA urges people to use e2ee after china hacked into lawfull intercept backdoors. All this have happend since last time chatcontrol was on the agenda and this time 2 more countrys has agreed to say no.

FBI and Cisa: Nederlands inteligent agency 1: Nederlands inteligent agency 2: Swedish FRA:

Yes, this time… but we won again and i think it is important to remember that. i think this will be brought up again but we need to spread the word when it is happening and stand up again and again when it is happening. We need to win everytime but the politicians only needs one time “democracy” it is called.

Swedish FRA (like USA’s NSA) have done the same.

But Swedish government doesn’t listen and whant to enforce laws like HDA (hack Swedish devices with 0days). Realtime AI face recognition on public places. Force services like social media, isp, Telecom companies and more to save all traffic for up to 2 years incase of criminal activity.

Then we have Eu’s “going dark” project that aims on attacking encryption.

Yes you are absolutely right. I have talked about this in Swedish with friends and online “debates” that I simple password-protected zip file is all that is needed to bypass the whole idea of chatcontrol. And then you can safely share csam. If real criminals can use this simple trick, who is chatcontrol going to watch and flag for CSAM?

Looks that way I don’t understand how they are thinking. It is pretty obvious that they dont trust thorn or other lobbyists so they know the risks.

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Best I can find is here https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/#AdditionalInformation

The European Ministry whants to exclude themselves and europeans intelligence agencies (europool) from the surveillance. The Ministry is the only instance that’s have talked about excluding.

As I understand it, it’s exactly like the online safety bill in the uk. but I’m not that well-read on online safety bill.

Last time Hungary will try. Next country that’s up for Presidency is Poland which is against chatcontrol.